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Old 09-08-2008, 01:00 AM
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Default Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

Let say I have domain XXX and I am shooting for keywords A, B, C

I go out an buy the domains A.com B.com C.com and all sorts of other .net and .org
combinations.

If I 301 redirect all these domains to XXX will it improve my serp
for the keywords A, B, C ?

Should I submit A, B, C to the search engines and Go out and get them backlinks
or focus on backlinks to the main domain (XXX) with a,b,c as the link text?

What else can I do to use A, B, C domains to improve my main domain XXX's
ranking for my keywords?

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Old 09-08-2008, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

Use quality link clinchers like "Offers.......". "Bestseller........". Good link building is very effective especially on how you are going to play on your keywords. Don't redirect your visitors using dummy domain. Make your domain effective by having good contents and by that there is a chance for you to promote your main site on your domains.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:51 PM
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This whole domain thing is important. Lets get back to basics. Google is quite keen on Age Of Domain. If a domain has been around a while then it has a bit of a GRANDDADDY status and gets a tick in the box from the big G.
It wouldn't matter if a domain is KEYWORD loaded today. Let us consider your website a house.
When Standing on the ROOF you are at www.example.com here on the HOME page and with optimised Title Tags you are shouting out to the world what your website is about. Now consider your Landing Pages - you have brought your audience down into your house from the roof. Your House has many rooms each room a landing page so now we are are www.example.com/your-keyword-term-here.html now this landing page should be on topic and on theme about what your are talking about on the page. So if your 'on the page content' is about WIDGETS, then your Title Tag is focused on WIDGETS your page URL is at www.example.com/widgets.html

And if each page on your website was uniquely treated in this way by you , then you wouldn't need to go chasing buying loads of domain names that have keywords in them. You would have to spend all your time going around promoting them all after you have them 301 permanent redirecting into areas of your site.

Look at it this way. The BBC don't have loads of domain names. CNN don't have loads of different domain names, Walmart don't have loads of different domain names. What are - one site - one topic but with many landing pages. You want to find out about radio1 at the bbc. You go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 you want to find out about a presenter at radio 1 you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/presenter
Why does google like the bbc site, cause its one site, google likes big sites that grow at a regular pace with new poages coming on at regular intervals. And, all the page content on this site is unique and each section of the site is on theme and on topic.

Forget about extra domains - get some decent URL addresses applied to your site and good anchor text links going from page to page that are relevant and you will in the long run have a much better site that will over time achieve the rankings you crave for.

There is no fast track secret way to have google do better with your site.

Hope this helps
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:12 PM
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Great advice and I would normally agree for most sites..

My site however has 1 product that I sell..

People refer to that product by many names in their searches.

tv screen protector
tv screen protectors
tv screen cover
tv screen covers
tv screen protection
lcd tv screen protection
lcd screen protector
etc..etc..etc..

I cant optimize my landing page for all these keywords and I cant have 30
landing/subpages each optimized for a single keyword since I only have
one product to sell.

Can you suggest a way to use those keyword domains
to help my main site rank better for each keyword?

Thanks,
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

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If I 301 redirect all these domains to XXX will it improve my serp
for the keywords A, B, C ?

Should I submit A, B, C to the search engines and Go out and get them backlinks
or focus on backlinks to the main domain (XXX) with a,b,c as the link text?

What else can I do to use A, B, C domains to improve my main domain XXX's
ranking for my keywords?
1. No

2. No

3. Might want to review some SEO Newbie threads.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:10 PM
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We did a website some time ago that only had a single product to sell, but you would be amazed how if doing sufficient research into your niche marketing space you can create a variety of pages that provide the information in different ways but use these various landing pages to drive the visitors down to your GOAL page.
Even with one product you want visitors to have more than a one time experience on your website.

I bet if you really sat down and thought about what you are offering you can create quite a number of unique pages of content. Plus use Social Media Marketing Tactics - there are over 1920 SMM sites out their - each one is a little soap box for you to get up on and start talking about your product, plus find other websites where you can apply some unique content that will provide good inbound links back to lower level pages in your website. Google will visit your site and will come back more often if it sees the regular addition of pages, and those pages linking to other pages via relevent links. PLUS it will look round the internet to find out if any other decent websites it gives value too is 'talking' about your website pages.

A lot of foot soldiering I know, but hey its like the Forth Rail Bridge here in Scotland, your never done painting it!!!

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1. No

2. No

3. Might want to review some SEO Newbie threads.
Perfect response.
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I would go with the most popular searched term out of A.com, B.com, and C.com. Google obviously gives more preference to .com domains. Then I would do as directed above, linking with the appropriate text for A, B, and C. If the most popular searched term is A then you will not have to establish as many links with keyword A as you will for the keywords B and C. to achieve the best results for all three. I would also register B.com and C.com and 301 redirect them to A.com just to keep them out of the competitions hands. That's my take.







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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

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Perfect response.
Actually I think it is a quite useless response. I dont need to go back to "SEO newbie school"
I do need a useful answer from experienced members of the seo community.
Something which might seem obvious on the surface is not always so..

On my own rankings I have seen some correlation between owning a particular keyword
domain name/having it 301'd to my site and serp for that keyword.

I have one competitor who dominates the rankings based on his keyword domain
name.. and all permutations of it. tvscreenprotector, tvscreenprotectors, lcdtvscreenprotectors,
etc.. Its not cause of his backlinks either.

All except for tvscreenprotection which is a domain I own and have 301'd to my main site.
My site is on top for that ranking. 99% of my backlinks point to tvscreenprotector(s) BTW.

Has anyone actually tried adding backlinks to 301'd keywordrich domains and has
it helped in the serp for those keywords?

Mike
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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

Well Mike the questions are very much like newbie would ask. I answered your question. 301 redirecting URLs in the manner described above will not help you rank any better.

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"I have one competitor who dominates the rankings based on his keyword domain
name.. and all permutations of it. tvscreenprotector, tvscreenprotectors, lcdtvscreenprotectors,
etc.. Its not cause of his backlinks either."
Sure it is. Simply having keywords in your domain name is not and NEVER will be enough to rank.
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

Actually in their case it is...

They have 77 backlinks.. 60 of them are from the same exact site (someones blog).
They rank #1 for Tv screen protector(s) and cant seem to be budged
from that spot which is their domain name.

My site has over 600+ backlinks from all over the place for those
same keywords and I am barely on the first page.

Google is giving a HUGE amount of authority to their
keyword domain.

Mike
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It is not about the number of back links you have. It is about the quality of back links. Dig deep and see which ones they have that might be giving them the boost you dont have. Check out this tool to help you understand back links more: https://www.majesticseo.com/
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:27 PM
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Thanks for the tool link.. I'll dig into that more.

Mike
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Default Re: Buying keyword domians and 301ing to main one help serp?

Yes the quality of links is important but don't discount quantity and having the keyword in the domain name.

Take a look at the Google SERPs and see how many of the top ten have the keyword in the URL.

IMO Google rankings are all about relevant anchor text links and too many times people tend to forget that Google considers things like the text in the vicinity when judging the relevancy of the link.
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