Cuil Penalizing Adsense Advertisers?

[Trafficop]

Of course the first thing I did is search Cuil on my important keywords for my own long-standing, relevant website. Horrors, my site is nowhere to be found. Even unknown sites that reprint my articles appear before me. Other sites appear three times in their results.

Now my site is unspammy, useful and real, so has no real reason to be banned or penalised by Cuil. Except for possibly the fact it uses Google's Adsense for a major part of it's revenue stream. But is also appears Adwords clients do well in the Cuils SERP's.

So, question is - is Cuil penalising Adsense advertisers and rewarding Adwords publishers? I'm sure some former, possibly disgruntled, Google employees wouldn't want to help fill Google's bulging coffers.

[logodesign77]

I have not found any problems with my websites. I have several sites that are showing up on the front page which have adsense throughout the site. Cuil is still growing..... what is your website in question?

Mine is BBQ-Festivals.com

[Trafficop]

Hi LD77,

I searched for bbq festivals, bbq restaurants, bbq sauces - keywords I assume you're targeting - and didn't see your bbq-festivals.com site appear on the first 2 pages of Cuils SERP's. Google, however, has you well listed for the first two terms (but not bbq restaurant)

Hey, maybe I'm just seeing different results to you from my local Cuil DC?!

[Big Juice]

Cuil - hate the layout - didn't like the fact that too many listings from the same sites were showing up within the top 3 pages (in spite of the fact that they were there due to my efforts) - too often I got error pages - too often I got returns with no results telling me to check my spelling???

If they think they are going to be able to compete with Google (and for the record Google blows) they got another think coming.

I know it is beta but hey... maybe they should have made sure there was something in the more popular categories.

[AVC]

That is not a factor, first of all they have little search traffic, second they have not learned how to filter search results very well yet.

I ran ran a search on my name without spaces and nothing came up, then with a space and they showed results, so they have a way to go, don't get too excited about an engine just starting up.

[confettiguru]

Interesting, I use adsense. I show up first page in google for most main keywords.
In Cuil I typed in birthdayconfetti, one of my main products. To my horror, a competitors site showed up but with my pictures. This really sucks. I spend a lot of time and effort on good pics and content. I specialize in confetti, in particular confetti in fun and unique shapes.
It's one thing for a competitor to show up but to show with my pictures isn't cool. They don't even carry this particular item, number 100 confetti.
We are the only ones who have it...how do I know...I had the die made and the confetti cut for us.
Has anyone else run into the "borrowed" images problem on Cuil?
The Confetti Guru
PartyConfetti.com - Confetti by the Pound Confetti by the Packet

[Vithe]

Yeah Cuil has out of date images for my company's products too. Really not too sure where they got them from, as to the best of my knowledge they were removed from our website over a year ago.

I saw some American results in there and decided to try cuil.co.uk (as there is no UK filtering preference on the main site). Turns out to be about some village called Cuil. Nice

[iandoc]

Early days I know - but a complete domination by .com websites? Results that do not seem to compare with the established engines.

[richard-s]

Cuil seems to have launched too early - possibly taking advantage of a quiet news period.

I believe that Cuil is not yet ready for release.

I've written to Cuil to comment on its poor "accessibility" and poor use of monitor space.

I've also complained that Cuil has attached thumbnails of several images from one of my web-sites to the descriptions of other people's web-sites, and made my images link to those sites.

It is very unfortunate when a search engine is set to infringe copyright!

I do hope that Cuil overcomes these basic problems and also adjusts its algorithm to reduce the current prominence of useless "spammy" sites.

Richard

[flhu]

When a search for movies brings up the same Harry Potter fan site 3 times in the first two pages and on page 3 says "No Results Found" I don't think they have the algorithms in place to do much of any sophistication, let alone penalize adsense purchasers.

[AVC]

Send your feedback to them on their feedback forms, like I said, they are not really ready for prime time and are still in beta stages, some pages I linked to in the past were showing error messages the other day, then the next time you clicked on them they went to the right pages, so they are still having growing pains.

Many have tried to "become the next Google", Snap gave up long ago even though they were crawling and indexing pages aggressively, they did in fact build a decent database of indexed pages too.

It is not easy to garner market share, just ask Barry Diller, even after mass market ads were running on TV, Ask.com decided to cut back on operations because they were not gaining market share.

First step, have a great presentation people are use to and want to use, Snap got it wrong, users quit using it after the first time because it was slow, not many will use Cuil with their current presentation either, just like folks really did not jump on the SearchMe train.

Second step, make sure your data centers are ready to deliver and serve millions of pages, if you have too many technical errors users will not keep using a search engine either, Cuil has problems in both regards at this time.

But they do have world class people running things, they will read threads like this one, so keep posting your thoughts.

[chrisJumbo]

We have adsense on our site and it is found in Cuil. I just don't think Cuil has done enough work on their algorithims, design, servers, results, etc.

[BradHart]

Cuil is new and it wouldn't surprise me if they penalize adsense users, so it is hard to tell. I would if I were them at least at first. Google on the other hand seems to penalize sites it has ripped adsense off of. They totally wreaked havoc with a local blog. First they said too many clicks from the same spots the site had 10k a day M-F impressions, 90% of which were from 20 stations at the local welfare/job center. When we switched it to bidvertiser, adbrite and scribefire networks then dropped PR from 6 to 0 and took it from page 1 top slot to page 700.

I am waiting to see how this site plays out with cuil. I wonder how long it will be before they have their own adnetwork?

[AVC]

Believe me Brad, Cuil has much larger problems to worry about.

If Google worried about every hair brained thing webmasters say about them on forums they would have been in the funny farm long ago.

Cuil is not that devious to worry about such trivial things like banning websites that run Adsense on their pages, if they did this they would have a very incomplete search index and one that is not relevant, this idea goes against their very mission.

[copywriter39]

I'm not sure Cuil can afford to ignore any sites. It needs the publicity. It still seems like this is flying under the radar for the typical internet searcher.