Unique Content - Article and Website

[fortune68]

Hi All,

I have just written an article on ezine Articles (Beach Decor - The Basic Rules To Get It Right) which points to my main website (Beach Theme Home Decor).

Now I would like to make that article into a new web page within my website, as I think it has a lot of value for my site.

Can I just use exactly the same article content and create a web page (with pictures and affiliate links etc) - or would that be seen as duplicate content by Google and would it harm my website's PR?

[NateDesmond]

If you put the same article on your website and on an ezine website, I am almost sure that it would be duplicate content and your site would be punished by Google. Also, you should check with the ezine site because they might not allow content that has been published on their site being published on someone else's.

Hope this helps!

[janeth]

Originally Posted by NateDesmond

If you put the same article on your website and on an ezine website, I am almost sure that it would be duplicate content and your site would be punished by Google. Also, you should check with the ezine site because they might not allow content that has been published on their site being published on someone else's.

Hope this helps!

Duplicate content does not mean that your site would be punished. Google would take the page with the highest pr and show that page and would not show the other page.

[chandrika]

I actually did this at ezine articles in 2007, put the same article there as I wrote for my website.

2007 Hairstyles

I actually put it on my website first,
2007 Hairstyles - What Will Be In Fashion This Year !

What happened was that both pages got ranked in Google, but Ezine Articles page outranked mine, got loads of traffic and my page did ok, but not as well as EA.

Of course this did do my site some good, as due to the article ranking well, lots of people used it and so I got lots of good backlinks.

But this year, I wrote different articles one for my site and one for Ezine articles.
2008 Hairstyles
and
2008 Hairstyles - What Is Fashionable This Year !

This year my hairstyles site has outranked Ezine for the subject, however last year Ezines article provided me with 345 IBLs, this year my article there has so far only been published seven times with resulting IBLs.

Its hard to say which is more valuable, the traffic to that page by beng well ranked or the backlinks that are good for the site as a whole. I prefer the traffic and so would always write a different article for my site than to be published elsewhere.

Either way doesnt seem to do any harm at least. I did not notice any penalty inflicted for my article being on my site, ezine articles and the other sites that subsequently published it. I think though that if it is a competition between which site gets the better rank for the same article, it may depend on authority of the site and ezine articles probably gets some plus points for being such a well established reputable site.

[chandrika]

If you login at EzineArticles.com Author's Area , you should see your control panel that lists all your active articles. To the right of each article title you will see the option to view, edit or delete.

(oops sorry, its end of day here, getting tired, thought you were fortune68 asking how to delete the article...DOH!)

[bj]

You might want to just edit it and change it a bit for your website. And next time, post it on your website first, then submit it to the article banks. Even then, I'd change a bit. Rearrange the words a tad so it isn't exact duplication.

[IanBrodie]

My experience has been very similar to chandrika's.

I have published a number of articles on my blog, and pretty much the same article on a small number of article directories.

My experience is that my blog post and the ezinearticles entry both show up in google. Often, the entries on other article sites get pushed to the supplemental index (i.e. the "we have omitted some entries very similar..." ones) - but ezinearticles and my blog always seem to be OK. Sometimes my blog outranks ezinearticles on the SERP, sometimes not.

So it might be a good idea to produce variants for the other article sites, otherwise they may get ignored by google. But usually your blog is OK. I don't know enough to tell you whether the links from the other article sites will count positively for you or wether they don't count if they're in the supplemental index.

Ian

[alienpest]

I normally just add an explanitory paragraph at the beginning, and a little concluding information at the end, and it seems to be treated equally well in both places. One will eventually outrank the other, but that is ok. I wish we could get rid of the penalty terminology. There is no duplicate content penalty! If there are two sites with the exact same article, one will rank more highly than the other, that's all! In some cases, both do very well!

Sometimes an article on your website, and an article directory will get "dugg" the listing in digg usually jumps to the top, fades in a few days, and the most authoritative site will go to the top. In a lot of cases, after a while, the website will win out over the directory.

I have found that if I stop worrying about duplicate problems, put the article where it needs to be, both on my site and anywhere else, it all works out for the best in the long run.

[alienpest]

Sorry I got long winded and off track. No, it will not harm your websites pr!

[ron angel]

Originally Posted by fortune68

Hi All,

I have just written an article on ezine Articles (Beach Decor - The Basic Rules To Get It Right) which points to my main website (Beach Theme Home Decor).

Now I would like to make that article into a new web page within my website, as I think it has a lot of value for my site.
Can I just use exactly the same article content and create a web page (with pictures and affiliate links etc) - or would that be seen as duplicate content by Google and would it harm my website's PR?

This is an interesting point, on my site I have a film/movie script synopses (plug plug...) the same content is in htm, word.doc, and pdf format so the reader has a choice of which to read. some readers are worried about viruses or use different operating systems or whatever. would this be classed as identical content, as these formats are accessed from links on htm page
the richard montgomery matter
(plug plug grin...)

[marcel]

Google will take notice... but if you publish you article way ahead of everyone else, your will remain on top.
At least the likelyhood of it being on top is increased.

I wonder what would happen if we all concentrated on sending guest articles to existing websites instead of EzineArticles.

[Peter (IMC)]

Originally Posted by bj

You might want to just edit it and change it a bit for your website. And next time, post it on your website first, then submit it to the article banks. Even then, I'd change a bit. Rearrange the words a tad so it isn't exact duplication.

I'd like to add to that that after you posted it on your own website first, make sure you wait until it gets indexed before submitting it to article sites. These article sites have the nasty habbit of getting indexed really fast and so Google might find that version before it actually finds the one on your website.

[patelmiteshb]

Originally Posted by janeth

Duplicate content does not mean that your site would be punished. Google would take the page with the highest pr and show that page and would not show the other page.

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[bijan814]

you were supposed to add it to your website first, then reword it, then submit it to news directories.

[dreras]

I agree with Peter (IMC).

When ever I know that I'm going to submit an article to any directory I always make sure that the article is getting indexed on my site first. Then it's just a matter of links which one will show up on top. Since Ezine articles don't get very many links your website has a much better chance of beating out the Ezine listing.

[fortune68]

Originally Posted by bijan814

you were supposed to add it to your website first, then reword it, then submit it to news directories.

Thanks for the advice, if I would have known I would have done so - but I will do better next time! Thanks everybody for the input, I think I will just take the article, rephrase it somewhat and then make it into a web page.

[Serj]

There have been case study after case study that shows that the only way that you can can get a duplicate content penalty is if you copy the ENTIRE site word for word. Otherwise it is not duplicate content how many people have things like the 10 commandments or the famous King speech? Why would we even do articles if other websites got penalized for putting it on their site????

[Terry Van Horne]

Interesting, my thoughts were that the one with the most links would rank highest regardless of age of article, or at least that seems to be how it used to work on Google. AIUI, it would seem just publishing first on your site might be enough now. So age of page looks to be weighted heavier than IBL's. Can anyone confirm that?

[beachconnection]

My experience with this is quite varied - up and down the gamut. I do not see a penalty problem, however. Some pages on my site ranked higher than the syndication sites - some not. BUT....that also depends on the search term you're using as well.

I took about ten, 15 articles and shot them out over 20 or 30 of those article syndication sites, and I've gotten very little traffic from them. Almost none at all.

They were also used as news stories on our news site for the Oregon Coast (Oregon Coast Daily Travel: Oregon Coast Vacation Rentals, Lodging, Dining, Map, Oregon Coast Info), and most of them ranked higher there than on the syndication sites.

Also, there is a lot of different content on the sides of our pages (links to a multivaried stream of different sections on our site, as well as advertiser banner ads) - stuff that wouldn't appear on the sites of those who use your article.

So I think if PR worries you at all, change a few things at the beginning and the end, and make sure the format for pages on your site is vastly different from anything anyone else.

However - one interesting caveat about article syndication sites: in my experience, they don't work well for traffic generation. Perhaps they do for others. But it's no longer worth the work for me.

What DOES generate traffic is submitting these articles to more established, well-reputed sites that don't pay their freelance writers, but will accept submissions. There's some NW travel site I submitted stuff to, as well as LegendsofAmerica.com, where i dropped in a story about Oregon coast ghost tales.

THOSE do generate some traffic....a few hits a week. That no longer makes much of a difference to us as we're now quite established. But it may to you.

[copywriter39]

I've never known anyone to be penalized for an article being in more than one place. And it usually is the page that has the the more links that gets the higher rank. I think it benefits you more if the submitted page has a higher rank. It still leads people to your site and provides another avenue in. Also when you put it on your site, put on the page that it was published and where if possible. I think it gives you more credence as an expert in your field.

[alienpest]

Originally Posted by Terry Van Horne

Interesting, my thoughts were that the one with the most links would rank highest regardless of age of article, or at least that seems to be how it used to work on Google. AIUI, it would seem just publishing first on your site might be enough now. So age of page looks to be weighted heavier than IBL's. Can anyone confirm that?

I think the majority on this forum would say that the heavily linked site would get the best rank and position. My experience has not been so. Most of the time, my page will get better placement than the article site, and with a lot fewer links. In fact, I think that overall links are a lot less important than they once were. Perhaps this is an adjustment made to counter the cheating trend. All that I care about is placement for the keywords I