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Old 05-22-2008, 09:06 AM
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Hi,

I'm optimising a client's websoite - SUN Serviced Apartments - Chennai's preferred Serviced Apartments, Serviced Apartment chennai, Serviced Apartment in Chennai .
The site is all about serviced apartments in Chennai and keyword phrases for which the client needs top ranking are

Serviced apartment chennai
Serviced apartments chennai
Service apartment chennai
Service apartments chennai
Service apartment in chennai
Service apartments in chennai
Serviced apartment in Chennai
serviced apartments in chennai
chennai serviced apartments
chennai serviced apartment

Presently the site is ranked in the 2nd or 3rd pages for most of the keywords. But the client needs to come to the top / first page. I've included the meta tags and have also added some of the keyword phrases in image alt tags. H1 and H2 tags also done.

Also i've worked on building some 15 incoming links and have included in the Local . But still its in the 2nd page.

I need your advice on how to improve the sites ranking and make it visible on the first page.

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Old 05-22-2008, 10:24 AM
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The site needs a lot more on-page optimization than IBLs. Since you are claiming to be an SEO in your signature, I assume you should know what has to be done.
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What kind of back links do you have with the anchor text of the keyword above?
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Since you are claiming to be an SEO in your signature, I assume you should know what has to be done.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:57 AM
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You said that you were working on building backlinks. Instead, work on putting good content on your site. For example, you could write a buyer's guide for apartments. Here is an article about Building Unique Online Content. When you put unique content on your site, people will link to it, and your SERP's ranking will go up.
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The site needs a lot more on-page optimization than IBLs. Since you are claiming to be an SEO in your signature, I assume you should know what has to be done.
Thanks Webnauts.
But I need your advice on the same, if I'm lagging in some areas.
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Well as webnauts pointed out you're claiming to be something and as such not knowing what your'e doing seems to be a contradiction.

This is apparent by the over extended keyword stuffed link you dropped in the thread in hopes of boosting your search rankings.

Nobody is going to give you a complete answer. You would do well to buy seobook from Aaron Wall and read it completely.
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Well as webnauts pointed out you're claiming to be something and as such not knowing what your'e doing seems to be a contradiction.

This is apparent by the over extended keyword stuffed link you dropped in the thread in hopes of boosting your search rankings.

Nobody is going to give you a complete answer. You would do well to buy seobook from Aaron Wall and read it completely.
Thanks for your ideas. But pls note that I've not claimed as peer or expert. I'm a start-off seo and have asked your advice, but I felt disapointed for this kind of replies.

I was mislead by the name of the forum, Search Engine Optimization Forum SEO is much easier with help from peers and experts!


Anyway thanks for your support.
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Prakash everyone is here to help when asked specific questions. To start a post and ask why I dont rank for 10 keywords is a little to general and usually doesnt get much response. I think it is up to you to learn the basics for especially if your selling your self as and SEO to client.

This post might help:

http://www.jaankanellis.com/search-e...g-for-newbies/
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The site needs a lot more on-page optimization than IBLs. Since you are claiming to be an SEO in your signature, I assume you should know what has to be done.
oh come on, be nice. He's asking a normal question and isn't being an arrogant @ss.
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Thanks for your ideas. But pls note that I've not claimed as peer or expert. I'm a start-off seo and have asked your advice, but I felt disapointed for this kind of replies.

I was mislead by the name of the forum, Search Engine Optimization Forum SEO is much easier with help from peers and experts!


Anyway thanks for your support.
Prakash N

You'll get the help Prakash, but you do need to help the peers and experts to understand what you want to know. You won't get a complete course in SEO in a thread, but you can help getting good replies when you ask very specific questions. That means you have to look at yourself and wonder which specific things you don't understand and then ask a question about that. From there you'll be able to move on to the next thing.

One thing you can try is to write down a complete explanation on what SEO is. If you do this, you'll be forced to put everything you know in logical order and you will automatically find the gaps. Don't write down what to do though. Explain what the effects are of each step that you take. You need to explain why something works.

Do this and you'll come up with tons of specific questions.

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By the way, I can see in the code of your website that you know the basic SEO techniques. But you still need to learn some more advanced things like what to use as link text. Also try to learn about how to make your code cleaner. If you love HTML and CSS, try to go for tableless. (lot of work to learn so you'll need time for that).
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Thanks Webnauts.
But I need your advice on the same, if I'm lagging in some areas.
If you do not even know the very basics of SEO, it would be fair if you would give up claiming to be an SEO, and let us professionals to do that.
You reminded me this: Cheap SEO: it’s about quality, not price : Internet Business
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oh come on, be nice. He's asking a normal question and isn't being an arrogant @ss.
OK Peter, probably you are right. It is just that I am allergic and pissed off that every Indian citizen today is claiming to be an SEO and they are hurting the reputation and businesses of the SEO community.

Sorry if I have been offensive, but sometimes I cannot help it.
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You'll get the help Prakash, but you do need to help the peers and experts to understand what you want to know. You won't get a complete course in SEO in a thread, but you can help getting good replies when you ask very specific questions. That means you have to look at yourself and wonder which specific things you don't understand and then ask a question about that. From there you'll be able to move on to the next thing.

One thing you can try is to write down a complete explanation on what SEO is. If you do this, you'll be forced to put everything you know in logical order and you will automatically find the gaps. Don't write down what to do though. Explain what the effects are of each step that you take. You need to explain why something works.

Do this and you'll come up with tons of specific questions.
Hi Peter,

Thank you very much.
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OK Peter, probably you are right. It is just that I am allergic and pissed off that every Indian citizen today is claiming to be an SEO and they are hurting the reputation and businesses of the SEO community.

Sorry if I have been offensive, but sometimes I cannot help it.
Its not the Indian citizens alone doing the claims. False claims are not the property of Indians alone.

I never claimed that I'm an SEO expert like you, but i'm a start up seo which i've mentioned earlier.

Try to be courteous.
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I never claimed that I'm an SEO expert like you, but i'm a start up seo which i've mentioned earlier.
Oh I miss that. Sorry.

But you better learn SEO before you start promoting that service. Before I started my SEO business I was a designer. I never claimed to be an SEO or sold such services before I learned SEO.

And you cannot expect to contract clients for SEO services and ask from other professionals to do the job for you for free.

Just a friendly tip.
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OK Peter, probably you are right. It is just that I am allergic and pissed off that every Indian citizen today is claiming to be an SEO and they are hurting the reputation and businesses of the SEO community.

Sorry if I have been offensive, but sometimes I cannot help it.
There are 1.2 or so billion Indian citizens and fate has made it so that they all speak english... so sometimes it feels like all people from India are doing SEO, but that's not for real of course. It's just that they outnumber most of the rest of the SEO world.. So you'll also see a whole bunch more of SEO's that aren't as good. But in the rest of the world there are many SEO's too that don't know that much. Add some cultural diferences to the mix and you´re set for some misunderstandings and problems. Try to deal with it in a relaxed way and only get upset when somebody is rude. And even then you´re often better of just ignoring it.

Don't be upset, just be amazed,..
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oh come on, be nice. He's asking a normal question and isn't being an arrogant @ss.
I love Brazilian socker when it is on its best

But you have still not beaten Norway
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Well,.. considering I'm Dutch, ( I just happen to live in Brazil now ) that's alright with me.. The Dutch soccer team is the best anyway.
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Hi,

I'm optimising a client's websoite - SUN Serviced Apartments - Chennai's preferred Serviced Apartments, Serviced Apartment chennai, Serviced Apartment in Chennai .
The site is all about serviced apartments in Chennai and keyword phrases for which the client needs top ranking are

Serviced apartment chennai
Serviced apartments chennai
Service apartment chennai
Service apartments chennai
Service apartment in chennai
Service apartments in chennai
Serviced apartment in Chennai
serviced apartments in chennai
chennai serviced apartments
chennai serviced apartment

Presently the site is ranked in the 2nd or 3rd pages for most of the keywords. But the client needs to come to the top / first page. I've included the meta tags and have also added some of the keyword phrases in image alt tags. H1 and H2 tags also done.

Also i've worked on building some 15 incoming links and have included in the Local . But still its in the 2nd page.

I need your advice on how to improve the sites ranking and make it visible on the first page.
Does the keywords that you're optimizing has traffic when you check it on keyword suggestion tool?
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OK Peter, probably you are right. It is just that I am allergic and pissed off that every Indian citizen today is claiming to be an SEO and they are hurting the reputation and businesses of the SEO community.

Sorry if I have been offensive, but sometimes I cannot help it.
Hi Mr Webnauts,

What you have says about Indian is not true...because its a very known common fact in IT industry , India has been emerged as an IT giant & have undoubtedly most reputed Country and most dominating outsourcing service provider of IT services.
for your info i am not belonging from india but have been there for many times and completely disagree with your views....

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Lets not all jump on Webnauts back! He's right about one thing... in the last 18 months there has been a large influx of Indian seo contributors to this forum and most (not all!) have been coming out with crap or they're here to spam. That's not a slur on the state of Indian IT as a whole and I'm sure that crap seo is not restricted to India alone. My old boss is Indian and he would agree with me on that observation.

I applaud Peters democratic response tho.

pkwebbs - there is a lot wrong with the site so a reply would be a dissertation and no-one will spend the next 3 hours telling you the ins and outs of seo. Read this thread thoroughly and when you feel you have implemented all the advice to the best of your abilities come back and post some specific questions. With this approach you should get to where you want to be in no time!!
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Hi Mr Webnauts,

What you have says about Indian is not true...because its a very known common fact in IT industry , India has been emerged as an IT giant & have undoubtedly most reputed Country and most dominating outsourcing service provider of IT services.
for your info i am not belonging from india but have been there for many times and completely disagree with your views....

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Just my final notes. I do not disagree that India rules in software development. But when it comes i.e to link building, there is end of story.

I have already tried 7 different link building companies, and not only I lost my money but I almost lost my customers, if I have not found an alternative.

Also I own a forum and I am a mod in several other ones, and I never have seen more spam from elsewhere than India.

Besides I am not the only one who had or have such problems.

At this point I am done with that. Lets get back to topic now.
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