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Old 05-05-2008, 10:03 AM
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My most recent site has been up and running for a couple of months now and can be found at Vancouver Industrial Painting My goal is to make it to one of the first three positions of the organics.. right now...it is in fact #1 in the organics for the search I was targeting..."vancouver industrial painting".

I always thought that flash sites didn't get indexed well...just by virtue of the fact that they were flash.

Pretending for a moment that the above statement is true...was I able to get to number one so fast *because* the url is the same as the search....and for whatever reasons flash sites dont index so well .. I was able to overcome this alleged hurdle...again...because the domain name is exactly the same as the search?

Stated another way....do I, by default, get the top spot (flash hurdles notwithstanding) because my domain name is identical to the search? (ok..maybe i didn't state it another way...but simply repeated the question \o/ )

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Pretending for a moment that the above statement is true...was I able to get to number one so fast *because* the url is the same as the search....and for whatever reasons flash sites dont index so well .. I was able to overcome this alleged hurdle...again...because the domain name is exactly the same as the search?
My bolding.

In my opinion, yes.
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Combine the URL with fact that it is the home page title and the lack of competition for the phrase and you should be ranking where you are.

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Old 05-05-2008, 12:20 PM
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Agree

Can I post my post no 4000 without being reported? What have I been doing the last three years?
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Combine the URL with fact that it is the home page title and the lack of competition for the phrase and you should be ranking where you are.

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I agree David. The flash home pages have always been able to rank for 1-2-3 keyword phrases, but will not rnka for any more beyond that because Google is only seeing one file.
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Rick: I'd really suggest you do the research to find what keyword phrases you want to rank for in order to attract organic traffic to your site, and then seo for them. Chances are you're not going to get much with just a couple of phrases the way it is now.

BTW- I agree with what others here have also posted regarding flash. It's best to use flash on a limited sort of basis. Good luck with the site!
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Here

SEO Tricks for Flash - Dev Shed

is a recent post at one of the better web forums about SEO and Flash.

Google:

"Flash and SEO"

and you get a lot of other hits, 6860 here.
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is a recent post at one of the better web forums about SEO and Flash.

Google:

"Flash and SEO"

and you get a lot of other hits, 6860 here.
I am not so sure that the technique presented there is so good brother.

I would like to suggest these tutorials:
WebAIM: Creating Accessible Flash Content
Accessible Flash Parts 1 And 2 [Flash Tutorials]
Macromedia - Best Practices for Accessible Flash Design
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Rick: I'd really suggest you do the research to find what keyword phrases you want to rank for in order to attract organic traffic to your site, and then seo for them. Chances are you're not going to get much with just a couple of phrases the way it is now.

BTW- I agree with what others here have also posted regarding flash. It's best to use flash on a limited sort of basis. Good luck with the site!
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my mothership (see sig) was built with a number of key searches in mind....
but i built my most recent site with only one search in mind:

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Here

SEO Tricks for Flash - Dev Shed

is a recent post at one of the better web forums about SEO and Flash.

Google:

"Flash and SEO"

and you get a lot of other hits, 6860 here.
kgun

thanks for the link...i will definately read up on it... or at least make sure my web crafter is up to speed on it ;

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Default Re: Question About SEO and Flash

not forgeting that the 3 word search also happens to be your pagetitle. (sorry dave missed that u picked titles up on first sweep)

that's basically all you'll be able to rank it for, or with enough linkstrength pointed at it you may also be able to get it to show for an extra word that isnt on the site, like say vancouver commercial painting or vancouver industrial art.

with flash you are generally limited to combinations of words based around pagetitles & url, & not much more
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I am not so sure that the technique presented there is so good brother.
Why not?
  1. Warning against bad SEO related to Flash sites.
  2. However you can add two links on your homepage. a) View our Flash Site. b) View our static site.
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Default Re: Question About SEO and Flash

Google is able to index the contents of a Flash file. The following link will take you to an article that explains how it all works:

Google Can Index the Contents of Flash Files -- an interview article by Robin Nobles

Mikeinflorida has it right... do your keyword and seo research and you'll be in far better shape!
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Google is able to index the contents of a Flash file. The following link will take you to an article that explains how it all works:

Google Can Index the Contents of Flash Files -- an interview article by Robin Nobles

Mikeinflorida has it right... do your keyword and seo research and you'll be in far better shape!
yes its true they are "able to index" it, but that is far from saying they will rank it well.

& they won't
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