SEO Trust Rank v/s SEO Page Rank

[Peter (IMC)]

Originally Posted by scanmonkey

It makes sense. But I'm wondering if Google has incorporated it into its algo.

Try to imagine what the SERPs would be like if they haven't incorporated it into the algo.

[Webnauts]

If you want to call it Trust or Age factor, it definitely exists! And that is between 18-24 months.

Here are some resources to start with:

SEOmoz | Google's Patent - Information Retrieval Based on Historical Data

or the patent itself (especially for professors) :
United States Patent Application: 0050071741

Additional resources:

• Playing with Google’s Domain Age Factor - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog
• Google Ranking Filters: Trust and Age Factors. - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog

[Peter (IMC)]

I'm not agreeing with the 18 - 24 month, webnauts. It's not there for a whole site. It's there for keywords. If it would be the whole site, it would rank for nothing and that's not the case. The time frame you´re giving is an average that may apply to the more popular keywords, but definitely for more specific keywords the time frames are much shorter or not existing at all.

Of course that doesn't help much if you have only couple of important keywords, but still it shows that it's not related to the site.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Peter (IMC)

I'm not agreeing with the 18 - 24 month, webnauts. It's not there for a whole site. It's there for keywords. If it would be the whole site, it would rank for nothing and that's not the case. The time frame you´re giving is an average that may apply to the more popular keywords, but definitely for more specific keywords the time frames are much shorter or not existing at all.

Of course that doesn't help much if you have only couple of important keywords, but still it shows that it's not related to the site.

Peter did you read the patent I posted above?

Also looks like the guys claiming or being claimed to be THE SEO EXPERTS are once again very very wrong.
And now to your point: What time frame would you estimate for s keyword like i.e "search engine engine optimization"?

[Peter (IMC)]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Peter did you read the patent I posted above?

Also looks like the guys claiming or being claimed to be THE SEO EXPERTS are once again very very wrong.
And now to your point: What time frame would you estimate for s keyword like i.e "search engine engine optimization"?

Yes I did,... a long time ago.... I reduced it to an easy to read article way back in the days. It's still there on my old website: » Information Retrieval Based on Historical Data - SEO-WORKS Blog

I'm looking at it like this. When using average ages of various factors of a website, you have to compare these factors to something. You can't simply say, the older the better or the younger the better. So the question is: What to compare to?

The answer can be found in the average ages of the age factors of all results selected for a query. (keyword) That's the reference. And it is logical to assume that the averages are different for each keyword.

For search engine optimization you can expect that there are many existing websites that have years of advantage over the competition. But that doesn't mean that that everything needs to get older all the time. Links dissapear over time, new links appear over time, content is replaced by new content, the life or a page isn't eternal. So over time certain averages will naturally come to existence and these are different for every keyword. They also depend on for example seasonal and other factors.

What are they averages for a keyword like search engine optimization? I don't know, but I expect them to be reasonably high as it's not a phrase for which the content quickly changes. But they´re not as high as for keywords like hosting.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Peter (IMC)

What are they averages for a keyword like search engine optimization? I don't know, but I expect them to be reasonably high as it's not a phrase for which the content quickly changes. But they´re not as high as for keywords like hosting.

I never met the age of domain or site alone. It is obvious there are other offsite factors involved linke link age, etc.

By the way I just checked with Wordtracker:

search engine optimization 11815 per day
hosting 3634 per day

Are we coming along now?

[Peter (IMC)]

Not really. The number of searches done every day are irrelevant. With more popular I don't mean to refer to the number of searches, but more to the competition online, which means the number of pages that have the phrase.

Besides that. According to Google adwords keyword suggestions, hosting is searched for more than search engine optimization. I never really appreciated wordtracker that much to be honest. It may give some information but a simple keyword search in adwords or overture (if it ever works of course) is more than enough and you waste a lot less time using it. Especially with Adwords keyword suggestions.

[williamc]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Peter did you read the patent I posted above?

Also looks like the guys claiming or being claimed to be THE SEO EXPERTS are once again very very wrong.
And now to your point: What time frame would you estimate for s keyword like i.e "search engine engine optimization"?

Revisiting thread to look back at what came of this.

TSPR debates came and went pretty damn quickly.

Those damn seo expert types!

[johntod02]

I think these 2 characteristics plays an important role in google search result. That are
1) Unique Content.
2) Quality of back links rather than bulk of back links

[ericajoieake]

there are many aspects why search engine prioritize your website when it comes to rankings according to category which are contents, backlinks, domain age, domain name etc.

[Jenie0109]

is the TRUST Rank is same with SERP?