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A site with same keyword in top 3rd postion in google after some time or after a days it is on second page and again it is on first page after some time or a day, why this happen in google? why the site is not stable on same postion with same keyword.
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i think u r lacking some of link building strageties.
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Some term it as Google Dancing. You may even experience the site go out of top 100 pages. If you want to have a stable SERPs, then you need to concentrate on promoting and acquiring good BLs.
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Google is going through a update right now.

Google's Cutts Asking for Feedback on March/April '08 Update (The "Dewey" Update)
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Some term it as Google Dancing. You may even experience the site go out of top 100 pages. If you want to have a stable SERPs, then you need to concentrate on promoting and acquiring good BLs.
I think this is right good backlinks is the best option to stable in SERPs of google.
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A site with same keyword in top 3rd postion in google after some time or after a days it is on second page and again it is on first page after some time or a day, why this happen in google? why the site is not stable on same postion with same keyword.
It's because you're accessing different datacenter.
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If this is happen due to the different datacenter of google then why most of the sites are stable on the same position for a long time, can you please help?
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I think you just need to continue your link building process...
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This might have something to do with it - Google Everflux

Also, the Dewey Update will have been messing up SERPs for a few days last week.
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A site with same keyword in top 3rd postion in google after some time or after a days it is on second page and again it is on first page after some time or a day, why this happen in google? why the site is not stable on same postion with same keyword.
This will happen for 2 reasons:

1. Whenever you do major changes in the site, the ranking positions will fluctuate, after certain time they will get stable.

2. Getting results from different Google data centers.

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This will happen for 2 reasons:

1. Whenever you do major changes in the site, the ranking positions will fluctuate, after certain time they will get stable.

2. Getting results from different Google data centers.

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I have not made any changes in my site and if this happen due to the different Google data centers then why only with my sites not with others .

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Some term it as Google Dancing. You may even experience the site go out of top 100 pages. If you want to have a stable SERPs, then you need to concentrate on promoting and acquiring good BLs.

This is more common nowadays and also termed as Google everflux update sometimes.
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Try to analyze your competitors on a daily basis which would really help you to maintain a constant position in GOOGLE!!
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This might have something to do with it - Google Everflux

Also, the Dewey Update will have been messing up SERPs for a few days last week.
Once again, Inertia nails it!

Since Google is constantly spidering the web, evaluating pages comparatively according to their algorithm, your results will fluctuate until the process is complete. There's nothing you can do but ride it out.

Even the most stable sites rise and fall but things usually return to normal when the process has been completed.
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you need to update your site regularly in search engines.... Then you can stabilize your website position in Google...
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SERP fluctuation is a common thing....there are thousands fighting for the same keywords...so one has to carry on with the optimization process to keep the position for each keyword.
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Here is a solid post on why we might be seeing so much instability in the SERPs for Google:

Google Previous Query Reason For Crazy Google Rankings? - Search Marketing Blog from Cincinnati, Ohio
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Here is a solid post on why we might be seeing so much instability in the SERPs for Google:

Google Previous Query Reason For Crazy Google Rankings? - Search Marketing Blog from Cincinnati, Ohio
Hi Jaan,

Ive just read the article above.

When i go to google.com/.co.uk and try the previous query thing (I tried it with Spain and then searched for flights). The flights search had no Spanish prioritisation at all? Is this something which is still in beta?
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Thanks for taking the time to post that article Jaan!

It definitely provides some great insight in "Previous Query" and I think it's something we need to keep an eye on.

Now, how the heck are we supposed to optimize for that? (It's a rhetorical question)
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Hi Jaan,

Ive just read the article above.

When i go to google.com/.co.uk and try the previous query thing (I tried it with Spain and then searched for flights). The flights search had no Spanish prioritisation at all? Is this something which is still in beta?
Maybe it simple doesnt work on the datacenter your trying or maybe your logged into personalized search
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Once again, Inertia nails it!

Since Google is constantly spidering the web, evaluating pages comparatively according to their algorithm, your results will fluctuate until the process is complete. There's nothing you can do but ride it out.

Even the most stable sites rise and fall but things usually return to normal when the process has been completed.
As far as I can tell, everflux means very little sudden changes in the SERP's. No more dancing once a month but more like non-stop slowdancing. Actually I observe that changes usually happen during the weekends. Not like huge changes, but every weekend they update something.

Stuff moving up and down like described, is more likely the effect of that major update that was mentioned.
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