What is the Best Promotion Software ?

steveteva · #1 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 05:54 PM

Hi
As I plan to open a search engine SEO website,
I want to get the best search engine submitter (the one witch pro's uses to submit to thousands....) also
it must be able to do SEO work.
I know a few like :
Aleksika, Web CEO, WebpositionGold2, axandra, Add Web, Submit Wolf, top dogs, Myrasoft...

Is it worth it?

What is the exact name and version. What is the company website (please no affiliate link)

Thanks

cbp · #2 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 06:26 PM

The best software I use, is the one between my ears :-)

There have been plenty of threads here on these and comments.

I have never used any of them and never intend to.

There are also plenty of threads on submitiing to search engines - its a total waste of time and energy. I have not submnitted anything to a search engine for > year.

Google specifically recommend against automated submission software .... doesn't work anyway.

CBP

steveteva · #3 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbp

The best software I use, is the one between my ears :-)

There have been plenty of threads here on these and comments.

I have never used any of them and never intend to.

There are also plenty of threads on submitiing to search engines - its a total waste of time and energy. I have not submnitted anything to a search engine for > year.

Google specifically recommend against automated submission software .... doesn't work anyway.

CBP

I have a website www.aviation.bz that is ranked 9 and 10 in 1page result of Yahoo under keyword Aviation Classified ads.
I did SEO without software but brain storming and it works.
Now, Why million dollars company create, market and sells their promotion software if it will not work ?
I think their software will help SEO.

cbp · #4 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Now, Why million dollars company create, market and sells their promotion software if it will not work ?

I do not think it helps:

1. Submitting to search engines does not work. Search engine are crawler based - ie they find you by crawling the web (ie follow links) - submitting is not helpful, except to waste time. At least the new Yahoo! is honest and does not even give the option of <submit URL> ....

2. The software gives very detailed information on keyword placement, keyword density in meta's, title, H1, in text etc. BUT, search engines change algo regularly, changing emphasis. It also tends to get the NEWBIE to focus on this on page stuff when the most important part of ranking well is off-page (ie keywords in anchor text; links form authority/expert sites; links from similar themed sites)

I have responded to many messages in different forums from newbies who have used WPG etc and can't understand why they do not rank well (mostly they did not even have 1 link to the site). Others have used WPG to analyse the top few sites for there keywords, then changed their site to match ... then wonder why they are "banned" - they just do not appreciate the importance of the off-age stuff.

The off-page stuff way outweighs the on-page stuff. The only time the on-page stuff really help is when the keyword is very 'uncompetitive'.

Maybe I should have chosen my words better:
1. They don't work when it comes to submitting to search engines
2. They are misleading when it comes to on-page optimization

CBP

janeth · #5 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 07:31 PM

I agree with cbp submitting your web site is a waste of time.

Mel · #6 (**permalink**) 02-26-2004, 08:04 PM

There is no best promotion software, since the basic tool is an experienced human brain.

There are other tools that can help you with some of the aspects of optimization, such as finding sites to link to, reporting your results, researching keywords, comparing your pages to the competition, etc etc, but in all cases these are only tools that you use to save time. The end results of your optimizaton efforts will be dependant on how well you use these tools, not the tools themselves.

Would Michangelo have done a better job of painting the Sistine Chapel if he had electric spray painting equipment?

Common sense and hard work are required too, after that choose whatever additional tools you think you need, but never forgo the use of the basic tools.

steveteva · #7 (**permalink**) 03-01-2004, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mel

There is no best promotion software, since the basic tool is an experienced human brain.

There are other tools that can help you with some of the aspects of optimization, such as finding sites to link to, reporting your results, researching keywords, comparing your pages to the competition, etc etc, but in all cases these are only tools that you use to save time. The end results of your optimizaton efforts will be dependant on how well you use these tools, not the tools themselves.

Would Michangelo have done a better job of painting the Sistine Chapel if he had electric spray painting equipment?

Common sense and hard work are required too, after that choose whatever additional tools you think you need, but never forgo the use of the basic tools.

I ve test a SEO software and it really help me in SEO. I don't want to make any advertising for that or that software, asd I didn't test other software I can't say this is the best of all. But I personally found like one of the best. This software is Web CEO. The optimizing part is very usefull. I get my website with more revelant keywords... Easy and convinient to use. I track my result on submitexpress website online free tools "Meta Keyword Analysing". I still have to tweak a bit to get 100% of keyword optimization for all meta.
I fany of you have test other software and think it's better, post your reply.

kimbecker1 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-02-2004, 09:57 PM

I use bcentral.com's submit it program to help point out broken links, keyword density etc.

I don't actually submit to the search engines using the program but I do use it to analyze my pages.

I am in the top 10 for about 90% of my keywords on Yahoo and about 75% of my keywords on google.

It was very helpful in pointing out things like inadvertant spamming of a keyword, content word counts etc.

The guidelines for a well designed page are quite simple but often it is time consuming to double check all of your work. This really helps me to get nearly 1000 pages ready for submission and not to break any search engine "rules".

Hope this helps.

steveteva · #9 (**permalink**) 03-10-2004, 10:58 PM

I ve test 2 great software for SEO and honestly both are complementary. Here is the test result.

Axandra.com IBP3 is perfect to get top placement as it crawl, compare, mix and display results of what they did to get so high ranked.(huge interesting results) of all your competitors for the keywords given. Then you must adjust your webpage for better placement. (Submit to search engines are like any software).

WebCEO software has more functions than IBP3, the optimization feature is easy to use and very useful, the only thing is that the result is less complete than IBP3.

Both are very complementary.

So members, test it and post your comment on witch is the best for SEO.