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Old 03-21-2008, 06:29 AM
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I thought it was the funniest thread of the year, or did I miss something?
Its up to you. And your answer is most funniest ever seen in this forum
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:31 AM
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lol. funniest thread of the week...
Is it?? why do you think so?? I hope your here to make fun...thanks
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:40 AM
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My exact phenomena is Home page >> Navigation to all pages and nofollow link for the contextual links. There is nothing wrong in using the contextual links but if we use nofollow links for the contextual links and repeating internal links then search engine can show the exact back links

If you dont use the nofollow links for the contextual links then search engine spiders may fall into the loop. By using many internal links (which are repeated) without nofollow links we are creating cyclic path for the spiders which is not the best practice.

I hope when search engine spiders may fall into the cyclic path then spiders immediately get out from the site. In this process they are unable to recognize the real back links.
You´re confusing 2 different things. The spider trap (loop) you´re talking about happens in dynamic websites where the URL of the same page is different depending on the path you took to reach a page. It is better to change the programming of a dynamic website so that this doesn't happen. Using nofollows to prevent this problem isn't a good solution and might not even work that good.

If the URL's don't change, loops in the site because of links are no worry because the spider already knows it visited a page before.

You shouldn't care which pages a search engine shows in a backlink search. It's more important to have your pages show up when people search for your keywords, isn't it..
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:31 AM
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You´re confusing 2 different things. The spider trap (loop) you´re talking about happens in dynamic websites where the URL of the same page is different depending on the path you took to reach a page. It is better to change the programming of a dynamic website so that this doesn't happen. Using nofollows to prevent this problem isn't a good solution and might not even work that good.

If the URL's don't change, loops in the site because of links are no worry because the spider already knows it visited a page before.

You shouldn't care which pages a search engine shows in a backlink search. It's more important to have your pages show up when people search for your keywords, isn't it..
Yeah i agree with your answer. This is right answer. But some people failed to understand my intension and made funny comments.

Thanks once again Peter
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:34 PM
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This may be funnier than anything posted but here goes....

I read a free pdf download from a fellow and it was talking about no following your links to avoid sending PR to non-important pages on your site, that visitors should see but that didn't need all of the PR flowing to them. (at least that's my understanding was)

I have about 100 item pages that were all indexed and had PR3. My Index page was PR4, Sections PR4 and item pages PR3. Many items were landing pages too. These items had to reference the "fitting guides" to see if the item was recommended for their equipment. Every page needing this fitting info (about 100 items) have a bulleted list of features.

On the last bulleted feature entry I had some text like Be sure to check our "fitting guides" (internal link to guides) to be sure of a perfect fit.

I decided that my fitting guides didn't need all of those internal links (for spiders) and put "no follow" attribute on each link to the fitting guides. Maybe or not, this was followed about 30 - 45 days after, by a a toolbar update and my home page stayed at PR4 and the sections dropped to PR3 and items to PR1 or PR0 or dropped "no cache" when requested through the toolbar. I also lost my dozens of 1 & 2 (doubles) for the niche's SERPS, they were dropped to 3 & 4's under my competitor..arrrgh.

I took off all of the no follows and have seen in the past 2 weeks, that I've reclaimed some of them back to 1 and 2 position but only about 1/3 of the losses. Oh well, many would be happy to have double 3 & 4 search listings for their terms but not after you've had 1 & 2 for years. I think it had to do with the no follows. Now I don't have that important link to the fitting guides on the item pages anymore either - don't know what to do about that?

If Incrediblehelp reads this - it isn't the site I PM'ed you about. This is my money maker and dropping former landing pages (PR0 or Gray) and reduced PR has hurt, not badly but surely a noticeable amount.

BOO - to "no follow"! I should have kept my hands in my pockets instead of writing 100 no follow internal links!

Or, it could have been something else - but nothing changed for years (in regard to internal linking) in my site's architecture.

Just an experience I thought I'd share.

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CZ check out this thread:

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Thanks Incrediblehelp,

Wow that's a lot of info! The last 4 things stand out.

I am re-inserting my former links to the fitting guides and wait. That will eliminate #1 "what I've changed". The competitor did make a YouTube video of measuring an item with a tailor's tape measure, which wouldn't work for my products which don't come in generic - small, medium and large.

I have a Google alert on them and they're getting a lot of links from it. Affiliates?? Not sure who's using it and linking back to them for it. That would be #2 "what they've changed."

Thanks for now! Please re-post if anyone disagrees with replacing these internal links (described in earlier post) as they are critical to conversions but they are duplicate links about 90 - 100 item pages to the fitting guides.

BTW, the 2nd name in that thread is where I downloaded the pdf ebook (edited his name out of my first post) on using "no follow" in my site and was supposed to be really "insider info".

Oh well - lesson learned - they're going back up tonight.
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I fully agree. I use 302 redirects implementing additionally X-Robots "nofollow" in my .htaccess file.
No link condoms, like rel="nofollow".

Even if Google at some point will cancel the "nofollow" thingy, I will never be affected.
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I put my links back up last night - wheww - took awhile. I pre-made 5 different wordings of the anchor text and let it fly - alternating every couple of pages.

I discovered another large section that still had them in there after I'd thought they were all out along time ago...doooh!

Now let's see if conversions increase by arming my customers with better navigation and no guesswork.

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I mentioned more about my above redirect technique, which you might would like to read about it here:
http://www.webproworld.com/368246-post158.html
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