Will these pages be penalized?

[handcrafteduk]

Hi,

I've just finished setting up my second website and one of the categories from the first site is also relevant to the second. Thing is, they've both got the same copy in the writing. You can compare them here:

Site 1: http://www.handcrafteduk.com/ethnicgiftsthegreenman-c-3_47.html

Site 2: http://www.paganbound.com/thegreenman-c-63.html

So, they're both very similar. So, what I wanted to know is: Will this be penalized by the search engines? Would the pages be ranked lower because of this?

Many thanks,

Gary

[incrediblehelp]

More than likely one will be filtered out. Hard to say which one or if it will even happen.

[morestar]

I have sort of the same question: I have a server with the same IP address for all my sites and I have a site that's growing quite well and i decided to start another site with exactly the same content but designed a bit different and keyworded (the same) but a bit different.

now if i don't link the two together or try anything unethical, would it be alright with google and the rest of the search engines to have two sites that offer the same thing on the same IP ?

[craigmn3]

Google being a registrar gets to look into all the nooks and cranies of DNS, WHOIS and IP information. If they see the same identity hosting two similar sites, one will be s-canned. You need different Hosters and Different Registrars and DIFFERENT websites if you want them both to rank well

[morestar]

ok so if im a hosting company and i have two clients who both have the same sorta site, one will get canned per say?

[Palindrome]

Why would a search engine index the same page twice, except by accident.

[business-directory]

Are there actually any hard facts on this, i.e. documented facts?

I run several sites (business directories) that have duplicated content and from a first glance they get indexed well.

There are plenty of valid cases where I can see one needs to duplicate content, and I don't see how a search engine could make the right decision on what to include or what to exclude.

I'd really like to see some hard facts on whether duplicated content is bad and gets penalized.

To give you an example, we have www.clickfind.com.au (Australian business directory) which is our main business directory, then we have http://bartercard.clickfind.com.au which has additional functionality for Bartercard members, http://bbx.clickfind.com.au is dedicated to BBX members with special functionality for BBX members, and then we also have client websites like http://websitedesign.clickfind.com.au which are sub domains directly pointing to the clients listing.

All these are valid reasons for duplication of content in my opinion. We're certainly not duplicating content for any dark sinister reasons

[B0B]

Sooner or later they will find duplicate content, even if it's a section of a relevant page.
The question is how fast will they find it?
Links between sites, right away.
Same Host or registrar, not to long.

Exact same text, headings etc is easier for them to find.
They got me in 4 months with duplicate text, different host and registrar.

So make it tough on them. Re-write the text even if it’s the same theme and change the headings.

[sarpras]

It chance to penalized by the search engines.

Use different ip for two website. Not use shared ip.

[morestar]

again this is a farce, cause as a hosting provider i could have 9 client sites that offer blue socks and if each of those sites by themselves get good rankings etc then why would they lose the rankings if they were on the same IP...

google MUST be smarter than that...

[colincartwright]

I have half a dozen customers who insist on having both .co.uk and .com sites and in every case as they are all busineses, they want these sites exactly the same, in fact all are mirrors of each other in all six cases.

So far I have never had a problem with google. In all cases the sites are on the same web hosts, in many cases, sharing an IP addres. Its never had any effect whatsoever on Google rankings, indexing or anything. Only thing is I NEVER cross link the sites.

I think a lot of nonsense is talked about on this subject and I have yet to find any hard evidence that 'duplicating' sites is a bad thing - so long as you do not try to get one site to benefit from its duplicate sites content - then, like most things, you'll run into trouble with google.

Thousands of large companies and busneses the world over duplicate their websites

[Rashmi2008]

Hi all,

After going through all the posts, finally I have reached at the conclusion that duplicate content does not bother Google. Right? Even I have seen lots of sites with similar content. But what I believe Google prefer to give top place to those sites, whichever stands out differently. What I want to mean Google loves those sites, which provides unique and fresh content. Also visitors find it interesting and visits again and again. And I think you all want your site should have good number visitors.

[villageloop]

Originally Posted by craigmn3

Google being a registrar gets to look into all the nooks and cranies of DNS, WHOIS and IP information. If they see the same identity hosting two similar sites, one will be s-canned. You need different Hosters and Different Registrars and DIFFERENT websites if you want them both to rank well

Does this apply for sites that are different?
Or just identical? Or even similar?

I ask because I register many of my clients websites (which are all completely different) with the same registrar and the same account. I always link back to some of my sites from thiers, creating a small network of links.

I use different hosting services, but the registration information is the same.

I am not trying to spam the search engines, I am just creating relevant inbound links. Many of the domains just happen to be registered under my account (the registrant is usually the client and I am just the admin and tech contacts).
Will a penalized for this?

Thanks

BTW we are only talking about less than 100 domains

[morestar]

I'd love to see an official post from someone at google or something that indicates two veru similar sites on the same IP could get themselves into serp trouble...

[iNamics]

In regards to duplicate content a good place to start is
Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Deftly dealing with duplicate content.

In general SE's check for duplicate content but will only penalize a website if duplicate content is used in an attempt to give an unfair advantage to a site. Ie. Spam sites, link farms, unrelevant pages.

The Green Man : Pagan Supplies from Paganbound, Wiccan supplies and Gothic Gifts. Pagan interest supplies. The Green Man from HandcraftedUK
If they are hosted on the same IP (or IP Block) they should not link to each other.

These sites probably will not be penalized as they are but could benefit from various improvements. Having unique descriptions would add unique content and would help these sites rank differently, spreading possibly to a wider audience. I also suggest hosting these two sites on two different hosting companies ( to avoid similar IPs). Next I would use a UK. domain name i.e handcrafted.uk.com. Then these pages could link to each other with out any fear of penalization.

I hope this helps you.

[Chip Gable]

Google accepts some degree of duplication. But to be on the safe side, I suggest you synonymize your near-duplication articles. There is software that uses a dictionary for automated output.