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Can anyone give me some guidance as to how you should structure h1, h2, h3... tags? Should there only be one h1 tag per page? How heavy should the keyword density be?
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There should only be one instance of the h1 tag and it should be similar if not identical to your title tag.
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Try not to over stuff your header tags with words that are irrelevant to your site. I try to divide my title tag into 3 parts: H1, H2, and H3. This makes sure that there is not too much text and the right amount of keywords. Try to minimize your header tags to only a few words.
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One h1 per page as title of the page/article/whatever is the page about. Several h2s as sub-headers of what is being presented. Forget about h3s.
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Actually, I like h3 tags and I do believe they have SEO weight. I use them only when they are actually logical.

One of the places that h3 works is to breakout quotes from within the text, as sometimes done in magazines. It's a great way to add some keyword power both for SEO and human marketing impact.

As others have noted, only one use of h1 per page, and logically it would be "close" to your title tag, but it could be a variation. Think in terms of very closely related keywords ... for example, your keyword might appear as a stem word in the title.

Example: Title: SEO Website Design
H1: Websites Designed with SEO in Mind ('designed' is a stem word of 'design'.)
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Yes, you should only have 1 h1 heading per page, but you can also include an h2 and an h3 heading all on the same page.

use the h1 heading toward the top, then use the h2 heading and finally use an h3 heading
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Actually, I like h3 tags and I do believe they have SEO weight. I use them only when they are actually logical.

One of the places that h3 works is to breakout quotes from within the text, as sometimes done in magazines. It's a great way to add some keyword power both for SEO and human marketing impact.

As others have noted, only one use of h1 per page, and logically it would be "close" to your title tag, but it could be a variation. Think in terms of very closely related keywords ... for example, your keyword might appear as a stem word in the title.

Example: Title: SEO Website Design
H1: Websites Designed with SEO in Mind ('designed' is a stem word of 'design'.)
Hi mjtaylor i agree with you i also like H3 tag

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Actually, I like h3 tags and I do believe they have SEO weight. I use them only when they are actually logical.

One of the places that h3 works is to breakout quotes from within the text, as sometimes done in magazines. It's a great way to add some keyword power both for SEO and human marketing impact.

As others have noted, only one use of h1 per page, and logically it would be "close" to your title tag, but it could be a variation. Think in terms of very closely related keywords ... for example, your keyword might appear as a stem word in the title.

Example: Title: SEO Website Design
H1: Websites Designed with SEO in Mind ('designed' is a stem word of 'design'.)

I agree with you i also like H3 tag

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Can anyone give me some guidance as to how you should structure h1, h2, h3... tags?
In the context of header tags and semantic markup you could check out this site:
http://www.tyssendesign.com.au/artic...antic-mark-up/
Look under "Heading tags".
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There should only be one instance of the h1 tag and it should be similar if not identical to your title tag.
I disagree. It should not be copy and paste of your title. It should include words/keywords found in the title though.

And by the way I have a question here. What is so special about the <h3> heading tag that I still did not understand above?
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Well it depends on your taste on how you use h tags in text formatting. The standard keyword density as far as i know is 2%-5% or higher...
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Well it depends on your taste on how you use h tags in text formatting. The standard keyword density as far as i know is 2%-5% or higher...
First I know how to format h tags. But I still do not understand how can the h3 tag be a favorite.

And about the keyword density there is a standard rate. There are many factors involved to calculate the density of a keyword in a tag.
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Exactly, but h1, h2 and h3 tags will give you a good help to make rankings quickly in SEs. That's my experience.

I usually use H1 tags in my blogs' entries and got good results in SERPs.
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But I still do not understand how can the h3 tag be a favorite.
I don't think anyone said they were a 'favorite' - just that they liked them, and I got the very strong impression that it was simply an opportunity to drop a link in a signature - in fact, those two members have the same IP. I think you can safely ignore those comments, Webnauts.
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I don't think anyone said they were a 'favorite' - just that they liked them, and I got the very strong impression that it was simply an opportunity to drop a link in a signature - in fact, those two members have the same IP. I think you can safely ignore those comments, Webnauts.
Oh, cool MJ. Good catch.
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Oh, cool MJ. Good catch.
Teehee, thanks. That's what I am here for.
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Going quickly through the posts, I didn't see anything about the order of the h1, h2 and h3 tags. H1 has to show before h2 which has to show before h3.

However, after you have used an h3 as a sub header of an h2, you can use h2 again, but always make sure you follow the hierarchical structure. So don't start an h3 subject and use an h2 as a sube header of that h3. It will confuse search engines more than visitors.
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Going quickly through the posts, I didn't see anything about the order of the h1, h2 and h3 tags. H1 has to show before h2 which has to show before h3.
Maybe you went through the posts a bit too quickly to check out the link in my post
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Maybe you went through the posts a bit too quickly to check out the link in my post
That's why we encourage members not to just link to another site, but to offer the information in the forum ...
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That's why we encourage members not to just link to another site, but to offer the information in the forum ...
So should I have copied and edited the text on that page to make it look like my work? Not my style. This way saves time as well. Also I do feel the author does deserve credit and a link
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So should I have copied and edited the text on that page to make it look like my work?
Of course not. I'm certainly not suggesting that you not give credit or a link. I *am* encouraging you to give at least a synopsis of the information or the highlights ... and if someone wants to read more they can link through. Most won't, especially without a clear idea of what's on the page. It might save time to just link, but for if no one is seeing the information you offered, the time is wasted that way, as well.

But in any case, I wouldn't be surprised when someone says that information wasn't given ... because it really wasn't. Most won't click through ... so if you are really trying to help people, give them the info. I often quote my source exactly and link to where I've taken the quote as I did in this post today. I do that because I know few will click through and read it and I want to offer the information in a way I know the most number of members will benefit. I am encouraging you and others to do the same.
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Of course not. I'm certainly not suggesting that you not give credit or a link. I *am* encouraging you to give at least a synopsis of the information or the highlights ... and if someone wants to read more they can link through. Most won't, especially without a clear idea of what's on the page. It might save time to just link, but for if no one is seeing the information you offered, the time is wasted that way, as well.
Firstly, I was just joking. But what you say is true. Shall keep it in mind.

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But in any case, I wouldn't be surprised when someone says that information wasn't given ... because it really wasn't. Most won't click through ... so if you are really trying to help people, give them the info. I often quote my source exactly and link to where I've taken the quote as I did in this post today. I do that because I know few will click through and read it and I want to offer the information in a way I know the most number of members will benefit. I am encouraging you and others to do the same.
I did mention that the link was in the context of header tags and semantic markup. I thought that would do to let members know what to expect. This was in reply to the original posters query regarding "how you should structure h1, h2, h3... tags". Cheerio!
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