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Old 12-11-2007, 07:13 PM
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Deleting white hat *unique* pages every day ... how many? 5, 6? There are mistakes made, Clint1, but not egregiously so.

Sorry, Clint1, but not only do I agree with Webnauts and SemAdvance, but most search users seem to, too. If Google didn't provide relevant results in most markets, they wouldn't continue to dominate the search market.

I can only conclude that your point of view is a result of your inability to successfully optimize a site for Google. Why else would you be so bent on this issue?
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I can only conclude that your point of view is a result of your inability to successfully optimize a site for Google. Why else would you be so bent on this issue?
That is exactly what I wanted to say, but I did not dare to.

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Old 12-12-2007, 02:40 AM
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More personal attacks and rudeness. Why am I not surprised. When a delusional "google groupie" can't disprove or counterpoint their screw-ups with an intelligent discussion, they resort to attacks and abuse.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:08 AM
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More personal attacks and rudeness. Why am I not surprised. When a delusional "google groupie" can't disprove or counterpoint their screw-ups with an intelligent discussion, they resort to attacks and abuse.
Why don't you show us your site, so we can tell if you are right, or if we are delusional Google groupie? And if I am a member of a delusional groupie, is that the reason that the rankings of my web sites and of my customers are improving year by year, month by month and day by day? If Google is doing me or my customers a favor, why do the have the same success with Yahoo and MSN?

If you want some examples, I have no problems to show mine off. Do you have problems showing off? If not, your site URL please. Otherwise just give it up buddy.

Don't take it personal, but I am just sick and tired of guys playing SEOs and spoil professional SEO discussions.

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Old 12-12-2007, 03:15 AM
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I can only conclude that your point of view is a result of your inability to successfully optimize a site for Google. Why else would you be so bent on this issue?
MJ I think we answered the original question of the thread more than 100%. Don't you think it is time to close the thread? I think Clint will never be thankful anyway, as he knows all this stuff better than we do. I am just wondering why is he asking.
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Why don't you show us your site, so we can tell if you are right, or if we are delusional Google groupie? And if I am a member of a delusional groupie, is that the reason that the rankings of my web sites and of my customers are improving year by year, month by month and day by day? If Google is doing me or my customers a favor, why do the have the same success with Yahoo and MSN?

If you want some examples, I have no problems to show mine off. Do you have problems showing off? If not, your site URL please. Otherwise just give it up buddy.

Don't take it personal, but I am just sick and tired of guys playing SEOs and spoil professional SEO discussions.
First, I'm the one that started this thread, my questions were answered and for that I said "thank you" on several occasions. Show me where I'm wrong. Second, if you want a "professional SEO discussion" then start your OWN thread.

The reason you are a groupie is by your own admission; "the rankings of my web sites and of my customers are improving year by year, month by month and day by day", therefore you are biased (as G is biased toward small business), and you cannot be objective to the issues and deny any exist. All of you SEO types deny any issues or problems and claim you can fix anything to get more sales for your business. So no, I'm not surprised you want to "show off" your websites. I'm not an idiot, and only an idiot would show their website when they point out the atrocities of G because for that they would pay dearly in the form of retaliation by the groupies (spam attacks) and G employees under the guise of members (which would then delete entire sites out of spite). Don't be naive and think their are no G employees that read these threads.

I don't have any issues, or rarely if ever, with Y or MSN. Only G, and for the reasons I gave. I never once claimed to be any "SEO expert". I'm just one of millions of google victims that is falling to their war upon small business. No, I'll never "give it up" buddy, I'm on a mission to expose them and their atrocities, their war on small business, censored biased discriminatory results, and new creed of "do evil" as often as possible. And anyone that doesn't realize these things exist is not living in reality.

Again, show me where PR is good, has done no harm at all to anyone, and has helped the web. Show me where the SI is good, has done no harm at all to anyone, and has helped the web. Show me where deleting unique legit relevant white-hat websites is good, has done no harm at all to anyone, and has helped the web. I'm all for a nice civil intelligent conversation on these things, not rudeness and personal attacks. Otherwise, you "give it up buddy".
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Your site URL please, or just give it up.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:12 AM
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Deleting white hat *unique* pages every day ... how many? 5, 6? There are mistakes made, Clint1, but not egregiously so.
Yes, 5 or 6, 40 or 50, whatever. Well at least we have someone at the very least admitting that mistakes are made. If you visited dozens of other forums you would see that they are indeed rather egregious, but that would depend upon one's definition therein. Suffice to say, whatever the % may be, does not mean those victims should be ignored, forgotten, and swept under the google rug of secrecy. Collateral damage is unacceptable, regardless of its size.

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I'm never surprised you agree with your fellow "professional postee buddies". I'll again: Results have nothing to do with them being on top. It's just marketing genius in the form of a name that has become a household name, and even a verb in the dictionary thanks to billions of dollars in free advertising in the media and countless movies and TV shows. It's all in a name. If these outlets knew about the atrocities with the SI, deleting white-hat unique relevant webpages each day, and how screwed up and totally unreliable PR is, they would NOT be using G any longer, for they would realize that G gives tainted biased discriminatory results--something which NO ONE wants. Do you deny any of that exists?? I'll bet anyone anything that when word gets out, not only will their market share drop but their stocks as well.

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Sort of, in a manner of speaking maybe, but that's not the full story. For one, it's not just me, I'm NOT alone by any stretch of the imagination. The pages that G keeps in their index for me, do fantastic. Usually 1st on the 1st page for anywhere from 5 million to 25 million results (as seen at the top of the results page). These are only main category pages and the like. So it has nothing to do with G "optimization", apparently I do that just fine. Why? Simply because other site owners link to those pages, which is why G is flawed. G has little to do with optimization or content, only IBL's. As long as you're not spammy, and have IBL's, you're set. Other pages like product pages may get in the index and in the #1 position as the others, but only to be trashed into the SI, or totally deleted because other site owners don't have the need to link to them, which is why G is flawed; you have to rely on the interest of others, kindness of others, and the "others" must be site owners. This flawed system therefore penalizes those in many niches, mainly small self-employed type business sites. One's work, one's site, should be able to speak for itself, rely on its own merits, like in the other SE's; and NOT have to purely rely on the kindness and interest of other site owners as it does in G. One can be the only one on the planet or in the USA that carries a useful needed product, or carry it at the lowest price with the best support, but G users will never know that necessary individual has the product due to their discrimination and censorship of their flawed biased system.

Yes this thread can be closed, and thanks to all AGAIN for info on the nofollow tag. (But I guess you'll let the others get one final "closing jab" at me before you close it).
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I'm never surprised you agree with your fellow "professional postee buddies".
I guess you are not aware how often MJ disagrees with me.

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I guess you are not aware how often MJ disagrees with me.

Peace!
It would seem more often than not ... but Webnauts and I do actually agree on more than is apparent ... it's just that the things we agree on are much less interesting to discuss. Who wants to preach to the choir?

Yes, we have answered the original question, so, yes, I will close this thread now - a new experience for me.

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