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Old 11-27-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default The effect of 2 meta description tags

While analyzing my competitors' sites I have noticed that one of them are using 2 meta description tags on the home page. The first one is a well-written sentence that appears in the SERP. The second meta description content is full of comma separated keywords. This site does not have any meta keyword tag at all.

Do you have any idea about how Search Engines consider this? Is it sort of spamming?
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While analyzing my competitors' sites I have noticed that one of them are using 2 meta description tags on the home page. The first one is a well-written sentence that appears in the SERP. The second meta description content is full of comma separated keywords. This site does not have any meta keyword tag at all.

Do you have any idea about how Search Engines consider this? Is it sort of spamming?
Well it looks like a very retarded spamindexing attempt, which will never work, and if there will be any effect, it will only be negative. Can you tell if that/those pages are in Googles supplemental index? If you cannot tell, can you at least tell if that/those pages are ranking in the first 28 search results? Also is that/those pages indexed by Yahoo and MSN?
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Default Re: The effect of 2 meta description tags

The page is in main index. For the main keyword it has following positions in the Search Engines:

  • Google - 1 and 2 (another page that employs same technique)
  • Yahoo! - 2
  • MSN - not in top 50
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: The effect of 2 meta description tags

Pages appearing in Google and Yahoo! SERP and indexed too. But these pages are not appearing in MSN and not indexed in MSN.
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The page is in main index. For the main keyword it has following positions in the Search Engines:

  • Google - 1 and 2 (another page that employs same technique)
  • Yahoo! - 2
  • MSN - not in top 50
Next question. Are they ranking for a competetive key term? If you can't tell, can you tell the keyword so I can check it out?
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Default Re: The effect of 2 meta description tags

The query returns 5,710,000 results in Google. Please check your PM.
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Wordtracker and Overture estimate activity of 0 web-wide search engine queries per day.
Keyword Discovery estimate activity of 25 web-wide search engine queries per day.

And the query in quotation marks returns only 152000 results in Google.

Do you call that competitive key term?

So those guys are ranking nr. 1 and 2 for a term which almost one person a day will search for, and which does not mean that they will clicked, and not the next ones up to the 3rd page.

My God man. That should be a disaster for you man!

Hey I am just kidding. Not worth to go into this issue any further. If you are concerned about their competition, provide me with a competitive term and they rankings with it.
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I know its not a competitive keyword. But what is the effect of duplicate meta descriptions? And why someone will do this?
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I know its not a competitive keyword. But what is the effect of duplicate meta descriptions? And why someone will do this?
OK. Lets make something clear here:

1. It is obvious that those guys made a mistake, and instead of typing "keyword" they typed "description".
2. Google does not give weight for the description meta tag when it comes to rankings. It is just a page quality issue.
3. In their case, since they are using a duplicated description tag, one of those two will be ignored, as Google will pick up only the most suitable and appropriate one: Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: The anatomy of a search result
4. Looks like Yahoo, is forgiving. That means though that as Yahoo looks at the keywords meta tags and give some weight, your competition has a loss there.
5. MSN is not forgiving, and they most probably consider that as a spamindexing attempt.

Is that all what you wanted to know?
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Thanks for your input webnaut. I have just read in another website that it is considered spamming. Thanks again for your time.
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Thanks for your input webnaut. I have just read in another website that it is considered spamming. Thanks again for your time.
Can you tell the URL? Everyone can setup a site and publish what he thinks is right and what is wrong. As you have read in my posts above, I do not disagree, but I am just curious.
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Nice Discussion Guys. Thanx Webnauts to share your knowledge.
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This is very nice thread good topic is discussed among members.

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Can you tell the URL? Everyone can setup a site and publish what he thinks is right and what is wrong. As you have read in my posts above, I do not disagree, but I am just curious.
It is an old thread in a forum.
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This is very nice thread good topic is discussed among members.
Then its time for you to fix your spammy keywords meta tag too. Looks like they have been created by India SEOs, and your comment looks like those who want to draw the attention of members to their signature.

Would you please give that up please?
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I like clever reply Webnauts you make me laugh much this time.
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I like clever reply Webnauts you make me laugh much this time.
Dann, it is just that I am an Old Fox and a highly experienced Forums Spam Cop.
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Then its time for you to fix your spammy keywords meta tag too. Looks like they have been created by India SEOs, and your comment looks like those who want to draw the attention of members to their signature.

Would you please give that up please?
Thanks God Webanut is not a mod here . Whole India would have been banned. I am reading your responses right from my fisrts day here. You post nice answers and share your knowledge but when it comes to India ufffff ....

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I am thinking to remoce address India from my Profile hahahah
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Thanks God Webanut is not a mod here . Whole India would have been banned. I am reading your responses right from my fisrts day here. You post nice answers and share your knowledge but when it comes to India ufffff ....

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I am thinking to remoce address India from my Profile hahahah
I never claimed that all India guys are doing that. But I can assure you that the majority does. And that not only here at WPW, but in my forums and every other forum I am mod or a member.

I always read:
  • Very nice information.
  • Very useful information.
  • Thanks for the good information.
  • Great information.
  • E.t.c.
Do you disagree? Come one man. Then you most probably are not very active in forums as myself.

I also get at least 3 mails from India everyday about unprofessional services, and even if I ask them to stop that, the do it again and again.
I already reported 17 companies to their hosts and spamcop.net this week. Repeated mails, to make myself clear here.
I also have to blacklist them in my Spamassasin so I will not be disturbed.

Such guys just piss me off.
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Guys - I am a moderator - now I do not want to see this thread grow into a conflict that involves nationalities.

Do I make myself perfectly clear?

Stay on topic and there are too many one line replies from around the globe. Those posters know what they are trying to achieve.

The daft thing is - it's a waste of time.

You only have to read the posts made as stickies by webnauts to know that his information is extremely 'clued up'.

I am not taking sides - but if nationalities come into a thread which leads to flaming - then I will delete the posts and repremand the guilty parties.
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David I did my best to help the thread starter, and I guess he got the message. I am not against any race, nationality or so ever. I am against spammers and scammers who spoil threads.

I am unsubscribing from this thread, as I guess I am no more needed. You possibly would like the posts you found ofeensive.

Thanks.
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