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Hello,
Recently my client has used JavaScript redirect in html web page which is redirecting to asp web page. I know JavaScript redirect is temporary redirect and not search engine friendly. But my question is that, is it because of JavaScript redirect that we lost hits in last six months. They have done so at the end of May 2007. Before that in April 2007 TBPR update, we lost few important web page page rank. Also, the website is hosted in shared IP. My client is constantly asking for the reason & when I say it’s because of JavaScript redirect, they don’t agree with me. What could be the reason for decline in hits? SEO Gurus please help.
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Thanks tamecrow for ur quick reply,
As i said, the site is hosted in shared server, so they don't have access to change it. For the site URL, I cant post it as my client don't want it. Please help...
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Obviously, an JavaScript redirect is going to cause issues in that search engines will probably see the redirect page as a "doorway page". If that's the case, it's possible that your site is being penalized.
From the Google Help Center Webmaster Help Center - Cloaking, sneaky Javascript redirects, and doorway pages (I'd recommend that you read the entire page.) Quote:
You've asked for help in determining why you're losing hits but are unable to provide a URL. Without a URL, we cannot determine your targeted keywords or compare your site against any competitors, nor are we able to check the code in your pages, redirects or main site content. Get a static dedicated IP address, lose the JavaScript redirect and you'll begin to see some improvements. .02 |
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I've used JavaScript redirects with no problems BUT I also include a robot.txt tag that tells the search engine not to index this page. That way if the page is served up as a search result the visitor will be sent to the new page and eventually, the page will be dropped from the search index. (Sometimes you simply can't use a 301 redirect with certain hosting companies and sometimes I may choose to reuse the file at a later date, so the redirect may not be permanent.)
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Why can't you do the redirect directly from the domain name registrar? Many supply this service.
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You might want to ask your host if you can do that.
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First of all thanks to all of your for answering.
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I know without providing URL, its difficult to analyse the reason for fall in hits. The client said that they have used this type of redirect two years back but not such fall in hits occurred at that time. I answered them that the pages earlier were not important web pages. This time they made changes in the main index web page which comes after a flash web page.
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Also, from August 2007, few targeted keywords have lost their rankings in Google. Eralier keywords were ranking in top 20 & now they are in between of 50-100.
Is there any updation going in Google? When will TBPR update will happen as its almost 5 months over.
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It's my guess that you are using javascript redirects with the link hidden within.
Google will not follow those links, they are for humans, the bots won't see them. So Google (and other SE bots) are trying to crawl your previously ranking pages finding no content and gradually de-indexing them. It is an absolute urgency that you address this issue immediately. You MUST arrange for search engine friendly redirects (301) and I suggest you get link building to try to recover as best you can. As much as i hate to post a reference to wikipedia on an SEO matter, this page talks about URL redirection in a simple and concise format. URL redirection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Last edited by kayd; 10-04-2007 at 04:54 AM. Reason: grammar :) |
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A drop in hits could have been caused by the Javascript redirect, but the only way to be sure it was this and not some other issue is to look at the timing. Did the drop happen immediately after the redirect was implemented? Did any other changes take place at the same time?
It would definitely be a good idea to implement one of the fixes suggested here, but getting back your lost traffic is the priority. You need to be sure you have correctly identified the actual cause - not just one possible cause. Otherwise you could be putting your main effort into something that is not the real priority. |
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I just want to stress that javacript redirects are absolutely NOT search engine friendly and this is widely known by competent SEOs. It doesnt matter if the drop (in ranks) happened immediately after or a few days. Removing the content of an already ranking page and using a JS redirect to a new URL is NOT the way to go and is ALMOST CERTAINLY going to affect ranks.
So making sure 301 redirect is implemented SHOULD be the priority at this stage before anything else. Make sure you also update your main navigation, sitemap and all existing internal static links to the new urls. Last edited by kayd; 10-04-2007 at 06:18 AM. |
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<script language="JavaScript"> window.location="newpage.asp"; </script> We have already created sitemap.xml with the new web page url. Google has indexed the new web page. Google usually indexed our website & its web pages in 15 days period. Since the site is hosted in shared server, 301 redirect is not possible through IAS. I am looking for asp code to redirect it. Hope it works.
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As it was an assumption, I am thinking what else could be reason for fall in hits. Was there any updates going on in Search engines?
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We need to remove the content from the existing page as the new page had the same content. I think you are correct, this only could be the reason for fall in hits. Thanks a lot for pointing it out. I am suggesting them to redirect using ASP code. Quote:
I am thankful to all of you for answering.
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I read here that search engines do not understand JavaScript, and I agree. But search engines understand the <noscript> tag. And in there you can add a link to the page you want to direct to. In addition I would like to add an article about search engine friendly redirects we published on our site: Search Engine Friendly Permanent Redirects - SEO Workers
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Now the site is hosted in shared server, individual redirect is not possible. Quote:
But can you please tell me what percentage of people will have non javascript browser. Now a days we will find many website which uses javascript or Ajax. Can this really affect my client website is such a manner. I thought i would use ASP code to redirect but then i came to know that how can we use asp code in html web page. So the problem still persist & ruining my rankings & hits. Please help me to how to overcome with this problem?
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If the hosting company does not allow you to edit the .htaccess file or use in your pages server side scripting, you could use the meta tag refresh but it must be setted to 5 or more seconds. And from the usability prospective that sucks. And that is not the best solution either, as search engines are allergic to that. What is left over, you should advise your client to change their hosting company. Thats all I can tell so far.
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If you find out where you read that, would be very cool if you would let us know too.
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I started a thread on the topic with what I found - Yahoo documentation that a Meta Refresh is okay ... and what I didn't:
Is a Meta Refresh Safe When You Can't Do a 301? Cheers, MJ
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Thanks for suggesting meta refresh. I knew about it but thought its again a temporary redirect like javascript. So was afraid to incorporate it.
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