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Old 09-28-2007, 10:02 AM
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Dear members,

I am sure that many of you here already know our tool SEO Workers Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool and maybe many of you not, but I never asked for a review before, so I did it now.

I did not post this in the Site Review Forums, as I only want a review for the content results our tool generates, which we updated this morning.

We just want to make sure that the info we provide there is accurate, up-to-date and easy to understand.

The interesting thing about it is, that today our Google webmaster tools show that our tool alone is linked from 2072 sites which we got without any additional off-page optimization efforts, and our analytics show that it is our top landing page and most visited (32.76%).

Therefore, I am looking very much forward for your kind as always contribution.

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If someone already tried to use the tool, it was for about 15 minutes ago for 10 minutes down. If that happen to anyone I apologize.
Please do me a favor to try once again.

Thanks.
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John, I tried it and your SEO Analysis is very cool and convenient. My suggestion is to provide it as a toolbar.
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With one exception, content seems to be complete & accurate.

The exception is in the section entitled "URLs found in the page." This section reports 1 URL, "http://hounddogtours.com/Pages/games.html," as being found 3 times on the page "http://hounddogtours.com/index.html," when in fact it is present but once.
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Webnauts,
You introduced me to this tool some time ago. Without sounding like a homer. It is the best tool I have run across, very complete. And handles one, two and three word key phrases, and tells you the density. It does very good on the metatags (though I do wish it would be able to catch more spam issues (like duplications)
When used in concert with other tools (link checkers..html validators et al) it is a important part of my SEO work

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But no matter which tool I use I always get a different keyword density result

and Deepsand look again I have found the links on page reporting to be very accurate

Oh and lastly.....you're asking me to do math to validate??? Wassup wit dat?

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Nice!

Thanks for the tool!
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John, I tried it and your SEO Analysis is very cool and convenient. My suggestion is to provide it as a toolbar.
Hey that it is cool idea. But who will build that?
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Well I don’t have the meta-kws tag filled in.. is that bad? Another part hints at KW density… another baddy for me. AN that KW list from a given page is horribly long for me, got tired of scrolling…

It seems ok to me I suppose. I am sure it’ demo isn’t me though… for most folks it would offer some interesting information. Dunno what else to say… are U looking for new feature ideas or simply how well it’s working.

If it’s demo (demographic) is noobs… she seems ok.
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Very nice. It appears for the advanced SEO person because the setup isn't intuitively obvious. E.g, not everyone would know why or how to select a particular robot or user agent string.

I have a question. Your results show in the title and description tags � instead of the ® or é. We do use the ®, etc for these, but why do they show up as �?

This has been an ongoing battle to get this right.
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With one exception, content seems to be complete & accurate.

The exception is in the section entitled "URLs found in the page." This section reports 1 URL, "http://hounddogtours.com/Pages/games.html," as being found 3 times on the page "http://hounddogtours.com/index.html," when in fact it is present but once.
I investigated the issue. I found in Google two pages. One without www and one with www.
site:hounddogtours.com/ ***-view - Google Search

Checking further, you still have one more with *.index.html

So your site has canonicalization problems. And the back that up:

Supplemental Ratio for Penn State Ticket Man; Hound Dog Tours: 28.57%
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Oh and lastly.....you're asking me to do math to validate??? Wassup wit dat?
What do you mean Craig?
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You are very welcome BOM!
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Well I don’t have the meta-kws tag filled in.. is that bad?
If you don't care about Yahoo, then you are fine.

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Another part hints at KW density… another baddy for me. AN that KW list from a given page is horribly long for me, got tired of scrolling…
Do you think it would be wise to make that shorter?

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It seems ok to me I suppose. I am sure it’ demo isn’t me though… for most folks it would offer some interesting information.
It honestly helps me a lot though.

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Dunno what else to say… are U looking for new feature ideas or simply how well it’s working.
Well I actaully want to know how good and accurate are the results report.

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If it’s demo (demographic) is noobs… she seems ok.
It is not a demo. Don't forget that it is a free service. If we find the time or a volunteer PERL programmer to help, we can do some more add ones.
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Very nice. It appears for the advanced SEO person because the setup isn't intuitively obvious. E.g, not everyone would know why or how to select a particular robot or user agent string.
Any suggestions to make that more simple? You know that I am a Techie, so I cannot really think like a beginner.

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I have a question. Your results show in the title and description tags � instead of the ® or é. We do use the ®, etc for these, but why do they show up as �?
Good point. I think we must fix that, as we server wide use UTF-8.
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I have a question. Your results show in the title and description tags � instead of the ® or é. We do use the ®, etc for these, but why do they show up as �?
Can you do me a favor and check again?
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Just tested it and found it very helpfull

Might now change from SiteReportCard: Web Site Optimization and Promotion Tools to the here published one.
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Any suggestions to make that more simple? You know that I am a Techie, so I cannot really think like a beginner.
Your results page has nice explanations of optimization strategies and how to fix some potential problems. That's very helpful. I had a hard time locating some of the suggestions you made and gave up looking.

As far as explaining more on the form - Beats me.
I'm in the category that wants everything simple.
I want one button to give me one answer to life, everything, and the universe - 42!

The dhtmltooltip or other similar action is very nice to explain things via rollover effect and keep the page layout neat.
Or, use something like
"Spider (Robot) to impersonate: (optional. See below for more info) "
Then explain this below your form.

- Who are these bots? With what SEs are they associated?
- How do the results differ if I select a different bot?
- Or, user agent string?
- Why should I care about or select a particular bot? An example answer can be something like GoogleBot represents 74% of the searches (made up number).
Most searches with NewsBot (made up) are done by people over 50 years old with $50-100K yearly income.
95% of the users of the GetMeBot SE (fiction) are 20-35 year olds. If your target market is this age group, then optimize for GetMeBot.

"User Agent String" - Again, you can explain below your form and give some examples of user agent strings and what they mean. Better yet, link to a page explaining this.

I will be passing your page onto my colleagues for their use! Thank you for the thoughtful work on this useful tool.
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Cool tool. Bookmarked it. It analyzes pages faster with useful statistics and observations.
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Nice tool. Tested it and got warning for title, description and keywords.

Should I be changing them?
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John, are mailto-links intentionally included in the section "URLs found in the page"?
Maybee You could show them as a seperate block within this section.
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Simple to use - page analysis detailed and clear. Top marks. Like it more than most of the other tools I currently use, so just added it to my shortcuts...

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hi John

I absolutely love it! I have bookmarked it and checked out my recent customer's site on it.

Only a couple of things though:

Not sure I agree with the length of keyword thing. I didn't think that meta keywords tag was still considered relevant by search engines anymore.

Your random question function didn't ask me anything the first time and as I hit the back button to check my many pages I can see that getting abused.

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Very nice. It appears for the advanced SEO person because the setup isn't intuitively obvious. E.g, not everyone would know why or how to select a particular robot or user agent string.

I have a question. Your results show in the title and description tags � instead of the ® or é. We do use the ®, etc for these, but why do they show up as �?

This has been an ongoing battle to get this right.
Actually I also get � instead of '-' on my pages
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I like it a lot. Thanks for this tool. I'll definitely use it from time to time.

In regards to the length of the listing of keywords found, perhaps you could simply put them into a collapsible panel with the default being collapsed. You could even think about putting all of the results into collapsible panels so that only the headings of each result section shows at first and people click the headings to expand them.

All in all, an excellent job on this.

A final though, instead of making a toolbar, you could look into adding this to the Google toolbar as an available widget (or whatever they're called) so that people can get to it with one click of a button with the referring page being automatically entered. I've got one of those on my Google toolbar already that was designed to give me whois info for whatever site I'm on. I simply click the button and it takes me to the whois results.

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Nice tool. Tested it and got warning for title, description and keywords.

Should I be changing them?
That means you suppose to work on them.
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Not sure I agree with the length of keyword thing. I didn't think that meta keywords tag was still considered relevant by search engines anymore.
About the meta keywords tag length check point 11: Ramblings About SEO » Blog Archive » 17 Poor Quality Signals Your Site May Be Sending

And about the use of keywords meta tags, Yahoo now gives them value.
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Very nice. Looks like it gives good information.

Two comments:

I would prefer to have the one word keywords toward the bottom of the list. I tried it on two different sites and since we seldom target one word phrases, I found myself scrolling down through a long list of one word phrases to get to the two word and three word list. Maybe reverse the order? (I guess I could just use the links at the top...but I was just working my way down through the page.

Also...since you asked...I'd love to have a button that would email the report. I might send it to the client or keep a copy for myself as a "before" and compare it later after the site is optimized.

It's a very nice tool and I've added it to my favorites.
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I would prefer to have the one word keywords toward the bottom of the list. I tried it on two different sites and since we seldom target one word phrases, I found myself scrolling down through a long list of one word phrases to get to the two word and three word list. Maybe reverse the order? (I guess I could just use the links at the top...but I was just working my way down through the page.
I guess that should not be a problem.

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Also...since you asked...I'd love to have a button that would email the report. I might send it to the client or keep a copy for myself as a "before" and compare it later after the site is optimized.
Well I guess I have not been understood from the first beginning. But I am thankful for all comments so far. I wanted to know how accurate people find the information our tool provides. About adding a mail function could be implemented, but if we are so far to release a paid version, as that is for our customers and site visitors and not for commercial use.

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It's a very nice tool and I've added it to my favorites.
We just setup a toolbar which you might would like to have a look:

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Additionally we are planning to build a Firefox Extension. We hope we can release that soon.
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I've downloaded it - looks good.

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I investigated the issue. I found in Google two pages. One without www and one with www.
site:hounddogtours.com/ ***-view - Google Search

Checking further, you still have one more with *.index.html

So your site has canonicalization problems. And the back that up:

Supplemental Ratio for Penn State Ticket Man; Hound Dog Tours: 28.57%
My observation was based on the fact that your tool says ""URLs found in the page," rather than "URLs found in the site." From your reply it is now obvious that your intent is the latter rather than the former.

Now knowing this, I would suggest that you change said wording, along with the similar wordings "Check a page" and "Page URL" on the .../analyzer.html page, to read "site."
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I investigated the issue. I found in Google two pages. One without www and one with www.
site:hounddogtours.com/ ***-view - Google Search

Checking further, you still have one more with *.index.html

So your site has canonicalization problems. And the back that up:

Supplemental Ratio for Penn State Ticket Man; Hound Dog Tours: 28.57%
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Webnauts,
You introduced me to this tool some time ago. Without sounding like a homer. It is the best tool I have run across, very complete. And handles one, two and three word key phrases, and tells you the density. It does very good on the metatags (though I do wish it would be able to catch more spam issues (like duplications)
When used in concert with other tools (link checkers..html validators et al) it is a important part of my SEO work

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But no matter which tool I use I always get a different keyword density result

and Deepsand look again I have found the links on page reporting to be very accurate

Oh and lastly.....you're asking me to do math to validate??? Wassup wit dat?
As noted above, the fact that the report says "page rather than site is what led me astray.

As such is a distinction with a difference, when one whom I assume is aware of such distinction uses either term, I also assume that he intends the attendant meaning.

As for validating the math re. keyword density, I'm with you; I could do it, thought about it for an infinitesimally small amount of time, & decided that it wasn't going to happen.
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I guess that should not be a problem.


Well I guess I have not been understood from the first beginning. But I am thankful for all comments so far. I wanted to know how accurate people find the information our tool provides. About adding a mail function could be implemented, but if we are so far to release a paid version, as that is for our customers and site visitors and not for commercial use.


We just setup a toolbar which you might would like to have a look:

SEO Workers Toolbar - Download

Additionally we are planning to build a Firefox Extension. We hope we can release that soon.

Toolbar repeatedly fails to download. Because 3rd party cookies blocked?
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My observation was based on the fact that your tool says ""URLs found in the page," rather than "URLs found in the site." From your reply it is now obvious that your intent is the latter rather than the former.

Now knowing this, I would suggest that you change said wording, along with the similar wordings "Check a page" and "Page URL" on the .../analyzer.html page, to read "site."
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Thanks for pointing those issues. I will pass your message to my dev team. But about the supplemental issues I mentioned above are not found with the tool.
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I am not a big fan of SEO tools, but I like Johns. It is a good resource when doing prospecting work and you want to do a quick check on prospect website to some some basic SEO elements that are missing.
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I am not a big fan of SEO tools, but I like Johns. It is a good resource when doing prospecting work and you want to do a quick check on prospect website to some some basic SEO elements that are missing.
Thanks Jan. I am glad that you like it too man.

But that is not all. We just began working on expanding the tool unctionality and features that every site owner and SEO will love. It should cover all need what on-page SEO requires. We hope we can launch beginning of 2008. Stay tuned.
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Actually I also get � instead of '-' on my pages
Debbie I tried to fix that issue. Can you check if it is still there?

Thanks.
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I just re-checked the page and the dash looks normal.

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I just re-checked the page and the dash looks normal.

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Then the change I made worked. Thanks a lot Debbie.
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