Submission Of A New Website

[papoogirl]

I'm a new member in IT world and want to know how to submit a new website to searching pages?

[incrediblehelp]

Moved to Search Engine Optimization Forum.

You don't submit to search engines anymore. You just need links pointing to your website from other pages that are indexed and being crawled.

Check out this SEO newbie page.

[coolguy27]

Agree, don't submit to Search Engine let them crawls your site... Instead submit to quality directories.....

Originally Posted by papoogirl

I'm a new member in IT world and want to know how to submit a new website to searching pages?

[amar]

Try to build some inbound links by submitting to famous directories.

[bart0r]

As above. the newbie SEO is very useful. Plenty of Anchor text linking to your site, submit to alot of good directories and perhaps personally contact other relevant webamsters and exchange links.

[Webnauts]

Google gives tips all-in-one: Webmaster Help Center - How do I add my site to Google's search results?

[papoogirl]

Thanks all for giving me info!
I still have something don't understand. If U're a webmaster, do U agree to link with a page with pagerank 0? I mean what happen to a website when they link to a lower pagerank page? Is there any influence to their pagerank?

[hostBrain]

Don't worry too much about pr. You'll just drive yourself crazy.
If it makes sense to link, then do the link

[mjtaylor]

Originally Posted by papoogirl

Thanks all for giving me info!
I still have something don't understand. If U're a webmaster, do U agree to link with a page with pagerank 0? I mean what happen to a website when they link to a lower pagerank page? Is there any influence to their pagerank?

Of course, hostBrian is right, a link *should* be made from a wider perspective than whether the site or link page has PR, but to answer your question directly: Linking out to a site with less or no PR doesn't harm the page or site that links out, but a link back from a PR0 page gives them nothing, so webmasters are often reluctant to trade links unless the link back page has PR.

That said, seeing PR0 on the toolbar does not necessarily mean the page has no PR. Google doesn't report PR for months at a time, so a newer page may well have PR but not show it in the toolbar. If you look at other pages on the site, and the internal linking structure, you may get an idea of what PR a newer page actually has.

Cheers, MJ

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

Linking out to a site with less or no PR doesn't harm the page or site that links out

Do you mean that linking to a site with a grey bar but with a longer domain/site history cannot hurt? Please clarify this.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

but a link back from a PR0 page gives them nothing, so webmasters are often reluctant to trade links unless the link back page has PR.

If the toolbar is white with PR 0 does not mean that the site has no PR, and I am greatful if such sites link to mine. That PR 0 means's that it has PR 0,1 or 0,2 or 0,3 etc.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

If you look at other pages on the site, and the internal linking structure, you may get an idea of what PR a newer page actually has.

Is there a tool or a specific method to check the internal linking? Please explain.

Thanks.

[mjtaylor]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Do you mean that linking to a site with a grey bar but with a longer domain/site history cannot hurt? Please clarify this.

Yes, I do. The older page with a grey bar and no PR is no longer the sign of a bad neighborhood ... it *may* be a bad neighborhood but is not necessarily. More often these days it is the only sign that a page is in the supplementals. Linking to a page in the supplemental index doesn't, in my opinion, do any harm to the linking site. And it can help get the page out of the supplemental index.

Originally Posted by Webnauts

If the toolbar is white with PR 0 does not mean that the site has no PR, and I am greatful if such sites link to mine. That PR 0 means's that it has PR 0,1 or 0,2 or 0,3 etc.


Is there a tool or a specific method to check the internal linking? Please explain.

Thanks.

I don't know any tool to check internal linking. I look at the navigation on the site and the HTML, if necessary.

MJ

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

Yes, I do. The older page with a grey bar and no PR is no longer the sign of a bad neighborhood ... it *may* be a bad neighborhood but is not necessarily.

An older page with grey bar was always and still is a sign that the page requires a closer look. How do you check if it is a bad neighborhood?

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

More often these days it is the only sign that a page is in the supplementals. Linking to a page in the supplemental index doesn't, in my opinion, do any harm to the linking site. And it can help get the page out of the supplemental index.

Can you be more specific?

1. Why does a page go into the supplementals?
2. Linking to a page in the supplementals can never harm the linking site?
3. How do you find the pages in the supplemental results?

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

I don't know any tool to check internal linking. I look at the navigation on the site and the HTML, if necessary.

What??? Manually??? WOW!!!

[mjtaylor]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

An older page with grey bar was always and still is a sign that the page requires a closer look. How do you check if it is a bad neighborhood?




Can you be more specific?

1. Why does a page go into the supplementals?
2. Linking to a page in the supplementals can never harm the linking site?
3. How do you find the pages in the supplemental results?


What??? Manually??? WOW!!!

John,

Well, yes, manually - it doesn't really take much to look over a site and see whether a page is likely to have PR ... what's the wow for?

If I really thought you wanted to know the answers to these questions, I would be so eager to take the time to do so ...

But no, I don't believe that linking to a page in the sups can harm a site. Do you? Why? How?

A page goes into the sups for many reasons, and many of them have to do with a problem with G's algo at the moment. Last April/May when Google 'attacked' links pages, the algo changes (or whatever you want to call it) put some good content pages in the sups ...

So, IMO, a discussion at the moment of why a page goes into the sups is not very useful .. I believe the next PR update will show some reversals ...

If you mean how do I know a page is in the supplemental index, the answer is ... no, wait, you tell me, and I will tell you if that's how I do it.

And while you're at it, why don't you tell us how you determine whether it's a bad neighborhood and if you've left anything out I'll let you know.



Going to sleep now ...

MJ

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

John,

Well, yes, manually - it doesn't really take much to look over a site and see whether a page is likely to have PR ... what's the wow for?

I thought the Google Toolbar is not up-to-date. In other words not accurate. How could you rely on that. And looking on the toolbar and the html code you can tell how good the internal linking is? I hope you are kidding me now.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

If I really thought you wanted to know the answers to these questions, I would be so eager to take the time to do so ...

I thought that the starter of the thread would like to have all this information. Posting a solution to a newbie without howto does not make great sense or?

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

But no, I don't believe that linking to a page in the sups can harm a site. Do you? Why? How?

Pages in the supplemental results are there because something went wrong with them. And don't start here telling that you should get backlinks to them to get them out of there. That can harm the reputation of an SEO telling such stories.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

A page goes into the sups for many reasons, and many of them have to do with a problem with G's algo at the moment.

WHAT? That is not true!!! I can bet on this statement.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

Last April/May when Google 'attacked' links pages, the algo changes (or whatever you want to call it) put some good content pages in the sups ...

How could you tell that they were good pages? Because they had PR? I had a while ago 17 pages in the supplemental results with PR 3. If you want to base your theory on something like that.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

So, IMO, a discussion at the moment of why a page goes into the sups is not very useful .. I believe the next PR update will show some reversals ...

I really hope that there will never be one again.

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

If you mean how do I know a page is in the supplemental index, the answer is ... no, wait, you tell me, and I will tell you if that's how I do it.

I am afraid that you do not aware who I am. Anyway. Here you go:

Try typing in Googles search box my site:

site:www.seoworkers.com/&

or yours:

site:www.cyber-key.com/&

Up to you...

So how do you check that?

Originally Posted by mjtaylor

And while you're at it, why don't you tell us how you determine whether it's a bad neighborhood and if you've left anything out I'll let you know.

I think I said enough so far. If the poster needs that info too, I will post when he will ask. OK? I also need some sleep too now. I am awake the last 27 hours.

[mjtaylor]

We will have to agree to disagree, John.

[Devesh100]

No need to submit to SE.
You will be better off if you link to quality sites.
Don’t worry too much about PR. Google updates PR only 3 to 4 times a year.