Partner Needed to Optimize Web Site 4 Engines...

[ursulab2]

I have an offer and anyone that's interested please let me know. I have a huge online gift basket company. I have literally hundreds of products and still hundreds more to add. I have been doing all of my search engine optimization myself (the best that I can with what I have to work with). I am willing to give someone a portion of the profits made by our company in return for some professional and good optimization. I need someone that knows what they are doing and someone that is serious. I need someone that can get me ranked HIGH in the engines and under GOOD keywords. I'm looking at making this site the largest online gift basket store on the net. I would like to eventually get number one under the keyword "gift baskets" and under some other keywords. I also want someone that won't use any dirty tricks that might get me banned. If you think you have what it takes to take on a challenge like this please respond to this message or email me using the information in my signature. Please also include some websites that you've done so that I can check them out.

I would do this myself but I honestly don't have the time or the patience for this task. However, I will do it myself if I have to. This is a permanent partnership. That means that as long as you optimize my site and bring in sales for me you make a portion of all of the sales on the site. Regardless as to where the sale comes from.

The person that does this for me is paid on EVERY sale made (regardless of who brings in the sale... You or me you still get your portion). Payments will be made via Paypal every 24 hours so there will be no waiting to get your money. If you prefer a check be sent out this is done once every 2 weeks.

I don't know if I've forgotten anything. If I have feel free to ask. I just REALLY need someone's help on this task. I admit it when I don't know what I'm doing. LOL

I've rambled on enough. If anyone's interested PLEASE let me know! I could really use a good partner that knows what they are doing. I think this could be a fun and rewarding experience for both of us.

[minstrel]

Hi, ursulab2:

Given the nature of your request, I understand why you wanted this posted in the Google Forum so I'm not going to move it...

However, you might also post a message in the "Freelance Work" forum where it may elicit more responses.

[fathom]

Originally Posted by ursulab2

I need someone that can get me ranked HIGH in the engines and under GOOD keywords.

This is however only part of the equation. It's great to say "rank me on my best keywords" and that there is mutual benefit however there are many other things out of the control of the "optimizer" that should you decide "not to invest in" - the person or firm accommodating your offer is stuck with -- and probable less performance will result.

Running a business is risky - managing that risk helps to make you successful.

Marketing a business is risky - but just as the above - managing that marketing risk helps to make you successful.

On the other hand -- if you pass all that burden (risk) on to someone else (say an optimizer) and pay only per "sale" not ranks, not clicks, not visitors, or warm or hot leads - your cost per unit sold (commission) should be extremely high plus an ironclad contract that stipulates "you can't back out of the agreement -- when things get better.

I'm looking at making this site the largest online gift basket store on the net. I would like to eventually get number one under the keyword "gift baskets" and under some other keywords. I also want someone that won't use any dirty tricks that might get me banned. If you think you have what it takes to take on a challenge like this please respond to this message or email me using the information in my signature. Please also include some websites that you've done so that I can check them out.

"I'm looking at making this site the largest online gift basket store on the net". Goods idea - however to do so tends to require enormous costs to make enormous gains - you tend not to develop "enormous gains" with zero down.

I myself am exceptional at performance based strategies - but there are no guarantees in this business -- too many variables are outside of my control - thus to accept "all the risk" - I would think 50% on gross sales would be fair.

To expand - making a product/service of some sort is about 50% of the total output to "bring to market". The other 50% is tided up in "labor costs", "research costs", "marketing costs", "advertising costs", "promotional costs", "sales development", "brand development" and a raft of other expenses - if the owner assumes none their return should be about half.

I would do this myself but I honestly don't have the time or the patience for this task. However, I will do it myself if I have to.

hmmm... for what it is worth - your statement -- "I also want someone that won't use any dirty tricks that might get me banned." is the likely outcome unless you invest enormous amount of time in appreciating what not to do.

This is a permanent partnership. That means that as long as you optimize my site and bring in sales for me you make a portion of all of the sales on the site. Regardless as to where the sale comes from.

hmmm... interesting. You mean "all sales"... phone in orders, mail in orders, catalog orders, off the street orders, and all order developed personally by you (say a friend or family) -- or only those that come through the shopping cart.

Here is a truism - a SEO needs tangible products and/or services fulfilled by others to add value to their services... however you need to weigh both risk and costs to determine what value they may provide.

This is like insurance - the premium for "zero deductible" is quite pricey because you retain "zero risk", on the other hand the cheapest "out of pocket" insurance assumes you wish to manage "alot of risk"... consider these things carefully your offer should be somewhere in the middle.

[awall19]

Well put fathom :)

[ursulab2]

WOW... That's a lot said.... :) Thanks for your opinions on this. I see what you are saying on all points. I'm just not sure if me doing everything myself is going to be in the best interest of my business, but then again who knows. Maybe it will be given time. I've only been working with the engines on this site for about a month. So things with it are still pretty new. This is just one of the many options that I'm pondering on anyway.

Thanks again,

[fathom]

Originally Posted by ursulab2

WOW... That's a lot said.... :) Thanks for your opinions on this. I see what you are saying on all points. I'm just not sure if me doing everything myself is going to be in the best interest of my business, but then again who knows. Maybe it will be given time. I've only been working with the engines on this site for about a month. So things with it are still pretty new. This is just one of the many options that I'm pondering on anyway.

Thanks again,

I'm away right now ursulab2 but will take a closer look at your website next week. A couple of things to note right now "on sales" issues:

1. people do not but stuff from websites, they buy stuff from companies that have websites -- these are two very different things.

If a gift is received damaged or send incorrectly, or an error occurred through credit - these are all company's customer service related issues not "website issues"... and could be a problem in developing sales (outside of an SEO's madate) but also a fee problem if totally commission.

e.g. 10 orders made but 9 returned -- based on your original offer the SEO would still be paid for 10.

2. If not how would you handle this?

3. I don't see any reference to your physical address. Virtual point-of-presence (VPOP) is ok - but trust is the "BIGGEST" online seller - the SEO however can't really be held accountable for your company's integrity, professionalism, credibilty, or trustworthiness -- can they?

We all assume - sales are a given -- but it's not just about "being ranked on keywords".

[ursulab2]

Hi Fathom,

Thanks again! I sent you an email. Please let me know if you do not get it.

Ursula