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Old 03-12-2007, 10:57 AM
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I was reading where Wikipedia has added "nofollow" to its pages. I also notice that delicious has nofollow on its pages.

Aside from people seeing a post on pages like these, is there any SERPS benefit to posting to sites like this? Is it worth the trouble from a SERPS viewpoint?

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I'd be interested to see some opinions as well.

All I have to add is that the side effects of these links is enough to make it worth my while on a site that actually has good content being updated regularly.

Side effects being all the great things that happen when you get noted & get this sort of traffic. Theres no way for me to begin to elaborate on that, but most of you will know exactly what I mean.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:26 PM
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It would seem to me, the whole purpose of posting articles to a site, (besides being socially resposnisible and morally upright) would be to get that prescious little link.
The Nofollow negates that (to what degree I am unsure)
If being the aforemention socially responsible, morally upright and getting collateral visitation is not reward enough for posting,then I would not expend the effort in those directions (for SEO purposes)
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I personally think any link can indirectly help you rank. Remember getting links like these popular (relevant) website can lead to other links on personal and work blogs that DON'T have the nofollow attribute.
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Wouldn't the nofollow just prevent Google, et al, from continuing along the index path? My guess would be that you would still get credit for an inbound link from that site, even though the engine won't follow along it to continue indexing your site. But from a ranking/relevancy standpoint, there would still be value in the inbound link.

Or would the nofollow mean that you would lose all credit for an inbound link?
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If I'm still getting qualified, interested traffic from a Wikipedia link, why would I even care about the PR impact of their "no follow" rule?

Let's not lose sight of the big picture: Google PageRank and, more generally, search engine optimization, are just means to an end: traffic on your site that converts to whatever business objective you have. If a link drives traffic commensurate with the cost/effort of getting it, proceed! If not, rethink your plan ...

On a technical note, Google's Matt Cutts has been pretty definitive that the "no follow" tag does more than just prevent a search engine from "following" a link. It essentially negates a link from being counted as a vote (hence preventing the passing of any PageRank value):

Matt says on his site, "The nofollow tag allows a site to add a link that abstains from being an editorial vote. Using nofollow is a safe way to buy links, because it’s a machine-readable way to specify that a link doesn’t have to be counted as a vote by a search engine."

Although put in the context of someone buying links, his advice translates directly to Wikipedia: their use of the tag means you get traffic, but not PageRank.
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As the original poster, I think I may not have fully explained my situation.

My site offers a directory of other sites in four vertical markets. Most of my backlinks come from universities and other professinals. You can see the main site at www.usernomics.com .

However, my business interest is in the few visitors I get who are looking for consulting services. So generating more visitors is good, but not likely to result in the people looking for consulting services.

Now I have a News Aggregator as a blog on my site that has about three articles per day. But they are not my original articles so they are not likely to be picked up by Digg, etc. You can see this at http://www.usernomics.com/news/user-...sign-news.html .

I now rank in the top 5 on Google for:

Interface Design
User Interface Design
Human Factors
Ergonomics

Plus in the top 5 for various derivatives with: consulting, consultant, and company, e.g. "user interface consulting", "human factors company", etc.

So I think that adding links within Digg, Wikipedia, Delicious, etc. probably would not do me much good for those consulting customers. I do have links at the end of each article where others can post to those sites but I am not posting to those sites.

Does that make sense in this case?

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It has some seo valueP.S.Look,Super sreensaver! You will like it !! :)))

Ctabuk Edit and polite notice - please do not make your posts into self promotion and personally I never click on screensavers as they tend to have hidden downloads. Caution Notice on the link.





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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigmn3
It would seem to me, the whole purpose of posting articles to a site, (besides being socially resposnisible and morally upright) would be to get that prescious little link.
The Nofollow negates that (to what degree I am unsure)
If being the aforemention socially responsible, morally upright and getting collateral visitation is not reward enough for posting,then I would not expend the effort in those directions (for SEO purposes)
Then perhaps you should

Hostname:
Entry Page:
Exit Page:
Referring URL: 0
United Kingdom
spc1-oldh6-0-0-cust760.bagu.broadband.ntl.com (86.22.6.249) [Label IP Address]
http://www.counciltenantsmortgages.c...y-changes.html
http://www.counciltenantsmortgages.c...ht-to-buy.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Buy_Scheme

I get hits from Wiki everyday of the week. The no follow thing is frankly a load of tosh. It does not stop the SE's listing Wiki results - it does not stop people using it as a point of reference and it does NOT stop people clicking through wiki and on to my site. The End.
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Just to clarify the point
Right to buy scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
... council housing the right to buy the home they are living in. ... The Right to buy scheme is a policy in the United Kingdom which ... Right to Buy Changes ...
Quick Links: External links
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_buy_scheme - 16k - Cached - More pages from this site


Taken from Yahoo 2 minutes ago. The external Link takes the reader to my link.It does click through but on cut and paste it does not read that way -lol
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I personally think any link can indirectly help you rank. Remember getting links like these popular (relevant) website can lead to other links on personal and work blogs that DON'T have the nofollow attribute.
Hear hear
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