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Old 01-18-2007, 12:41 AM
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Hello, I have a cigar website and was wondering if I add domain names to my site that are related to my keywords, will this boost my PR or improve my rankings for those keywords?

Example:

Keyword(google): padron cigar

Domain Name: padroncigar(s).biz, padroncigar(s).net, etc.


I am a novice to SEO and how it works, so I don't even know if you can link up domain names for such a purpose. Any good guide for SEO work and what can be done to boost PR and search rankings that can be recommended would help me a lot. Thanks.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:45 AM
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:01 AM
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You can register as many domains as you like, but if you don't set up each of them as their own website with different content on each site, search engines will see that as spam and/or duplicate content. Your search results placement and PR will suffer as a result.

Better to register as many "keyword rich" domains as you like but set them up with search engine friendly 301 redirects to your homepage.

The individual domains won't really be of any benefit other than to capture traffic from users who type random urls into the address bar to see where it takes them or for those of us with poor typing skills that tend to misspell domain names.

It's fairly commom to have several domain names registered this way and advisable to register the most likely misspellings of your actual domain name so that users get to your site despite their having entered the actual URL incorrectly. It's also wise to register the ".com" and country ".ca" or ".uk" specific versions of your main URL as well.

As an example, my site has 13 URL's that all redirect to http://www.inkjetoasis.ca

Here are a few:

http://wwww.canadiantonercartridges.com

http://www.canadainkjetcartridges.com

http://www.tonercartridgescanada.com

Contact your Service Provider to help you set up the 301 redirects.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:08 PM
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IF you are interested in using specific keywords in your URL, then a 3rd level domain (padron.cigars.com) works well. There are several advantages to going this route, however the biggest one is that you can put all of the content about that particular product (or product type) under that subdomain and make it the "expert" location in your domain for it. You can then run linking campaigns to that individual subdomain, and get ranking on that product. It is a better approach than (in this case) buying multiple domains. I would recommend, though, think about buying the domain mis-spellings and using a 301 redirect to your primary site.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:20 PM
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Hi,
This is in reply to Dubbya. Are you saying you need an individual site for each domain name? Can you give me some idea of how cheaply each domain can be created for this? I tend to use the original idea, and have multiple parked domains running on the same site, so perhaps I would be better to follow your suggestions; although it sounds a bit of a waste of the masses of space to run an odd few pages of new content on each different site.
An updated response would be welcome, from yourself, or others on this. I also run multiple sites with very similar content, although updated with fresh content virtually every hour.
Most importantly, I am about to lose an extremely popular Essex Pubs site, and place the content on a London Pubs site, thus saving £75 a year. Is this a really bad idea???

Examples are:
On the same site essexpub.com ; londonpublichouse.com
Will soon add essexpub.net to this site with all content

plus another site running in UK with similar content at
pubsinlondon.net

Plus a few sites all at the same site, eg


rootsgen.com; visiteastlondon.net
& probably others, I lose count of them all!
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:58 PM
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The reason why most domain name registars want you to register mulitple domains is that it makes them money.

The ONLY reasons why you would want to do that is if you have a name brand to protect, or the brand name is so popular will search for it, such as Compaq Computer as opposed to simply Computers. Then you would want to gather all possible permutations,such as compaqpersonalcomputers.com or compaqpc.com compaqnotebooks.com et all. Having one deeply enriched site is more valuable than 10 sites
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Some valid points were given earlier, pesonally If it was within my budget I would buy all the domain names that I could...like you mentioned
padroncigar(s).biz, padroncigar(s).net, etc. related to your main domain..Even if you don't use the .net , .info etc. they are yours! That way there is less of a possibility of someone buying a domain name like yours and riding the "coat tails" of your success!
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For SERP rankings, I doubt it. However, if you have a site that is already in a good position in the SERPs, but sucks when people try to remember it or spell it, a good alias works wonders. It will save you from having to change your domain name and lose rankings and still allow you to have a domain name that works for print media and word-of-mouth.
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This is just from my own personal experience:

When I started developing my company's web site, I found out that they had registered a few dozen domain names for "future use." These domains were all keyword rich, targeting specific products, but were just parked with the registrar and not doing us any good. I started going through the domains to see what I might be able to do with them, and ended up creating very basic four or five page web sites for each. I really used these sites to test designs and database queries, etc, but also included links to the appropriate sections of our main site, figuring it might count as incoming links for Google, or at worst just give me a safe place to experiment.

I did not get a noticeable result from this technique in Google. However, some of these auxiliary domains did start getting some traffic, and people eventually funneled through to our main site to order. If your auxilliary sites provide enough useful and targeted information, they may get their own traffic and bring visitors into your main site. If they attract enough incoming links, and earn page rank, they could even eventually pass that pagerank on to your main site.

Bear in mind that if you host these auxilliary sites on the same server as your main site, you may not get as much (or possibly any) page rank benefits from links from these sites. But, if done right, they may get traffic that misses your main site.
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Bear in mind that if you host these auxilliary sites on the same server as your main site, you may not get as much (or possibly any) page rank benefits from links from these sites./quote]

Can you elaborate on this last quote.
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Bear in mind that if you host these auxilliary sites on the same server as your main site, you may not get as much (or possibly any) page rank benefits from links from these sites./quote]

Can you elaborate on this last quote.
Google is getting better and better at finding mini-networks of websites like ones being suggested and throwing them in the SI. Yahoo is excellent at finding them and demoting the whole lot.
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yeah i agree with your yahoo comment. the last three websites I have owned yahoo crawled and found them quicker than google.

but the amount of people that use google is way more than that of yahoo.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:11 PM
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Hello SEO Experts,

First of all, thanks for all the expert tips I've gotten from this forum.

I'd like an elaboration on the comment made by Kevan (As far as I know, only the second person other than myself that spells his name that way) concerning domains parked on the same site.

I have two sites with verylongcompanynames where I have the whole name as one domain and an acronym both pointing to the same site.

What is the effect, positive or negative, of doing this?

Is a 301 redirect of one of the domains a better solution?

Also, rather than creating a few extra pages, would parking one of the domains on a subdomain (names.verylongcompanyname.com for example) then pointing it to verylongcompanyname.com with a 301 be a solution?

Thanks again for all the help!
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Nothing wrong with buying as many domains you want and redirecting them to your main website to attract type in traffic. I never park domains and use IP redirection because their is always the chance that Google can pick up one of these "secondary" domains and show that in the SERPs instead of the real domain.
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Thanks Incredible!
I value your advice.

This leads me to the next question.

If I have these domains parked for type in traffic, will I be penalized for duplicate content?
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Thanks Incredible!
I value your advice.

This leads me to the next question.

If I have these domains parked for type in traffic, will I be penalized for duplicate content?
I dont think so, but like I said you have to look at this case by case.
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