Question: Images and Repetition

[jordanmcclements]

:-)

I also have a question about relevance, specifically with regard to images. (Not sure if this should be started in a new thread or not).

I have a load of wallpapers / desktop backgrounds / photos at:

www.ni-photos.jmcwd.com

They are all 1024x768 resolution.

I want to add 1280x1024, 1280x800, 1152x864, 800x600 resolutions.

Now, probably the neatest way to do it would be with a drop down box under the thumbnail with each resolution in the drop down list. But seeing that I want to increase my Adsense revenue...

My question is (finally he gets there):-

If I create other almost identical pages on my site for each of the above resolutions, would Google penalize me? Even if I use Google Site Maps?

e.g. I would have sunsets.html, sunsets800x600.html, sunsets1280x1024.html etc..

[jawn_tech]

A great question! I have indeed started a new topic for this post, as I thought the question deserved a thread of its own.

[jordanmcclements]

OK - one more question about images (maybe someone will bite).

As far as the search engines are concerned, are there any value in back-links to images on my site as opposed to back-links to .html pages on my site?

[jordanmcclements]

One more related question...

If the Search Engines penalize a page for being very similar to another page on the same web site - I take it that the original page is NOT penalized?

[Tubby]

Question
"as far as the search engines are concerned, are there any value in back-links to images on my site as opposed to back-links to .html pages on my site?"

Answers here is based on my own experience - public experience often differs.

A text link to an image that is worded for instance. "chicken" can give google information about that image (good)
A link to the image named "chicken can help confirm the content of the page the link is on - (even be useful to confirm content for adsense) (also good)
Without it, how would the user know where the image is?

"If I create other almost identical pages on my site for each of the above resolutions, would Google penalize me? Even if I use Google Site Maps? "

In my experience google does not seem to actually penalise. . it appears to "ignore" duplicate pages.

I have several; navigation pages with identicle content. one always can not be found in google. the other gets page rank and traffic. As far as I know links on an ignored page are also ignored. But I have seen instances of Identicle pages both accepted by google. Your pages would show a different sized image. the wording would also contain the different size. in my book this is not a duplicate page. who cares what google thinks (google is not a thinker - just a program designed to recognise / register content)

I think offering users the choice of different sized images is a good sensible idea. I would not worry about whether google prefers to recognise different sizes. It is an important selling point. . That would take priority in my book.

There is Google, Yahoo, Msn. and plenty more places that users will arrive from. . adjust your site to selling as the main priority, satisfy the search engines as a secondary consideration. There are simply to many compromises in creating a web page. do not lose track of your main purpose.

I could point you to a hundred of websites where the traffic ooses in. . but do not sell anything.

with luck you will get some other opinions to assist you decisions..

P.S. a week ago I uploaded a totally new page. because of laziness I titled all the Gifs on that page 1930chevrolet1,gif - 1930chevrolet2,gif - 1930chevrolet3,gif and so on about fifteen times - Only one of the images actually had an image of the 27 chev. . but a week later doing a search in google images I noticed that google displayed the correct image and none of the others (the others were basically coloured squares and other non descript images) . . So google seems to be quite capaple of making judgment on what should be and what should not be. .

[jordanmcclements]

Thanks for the thorough response.

I am going to go ahead and do separate pages for the different resolutions, and see how things go.

As for being able to find your image in google images within a week - how on earth did you get indexed that fast in google images?? It takes me more like 4 months to get a new image in google images!!

Does it have something to do with image size maybe? It is definitely not that my site is not being crawled every few weeks by the google bot as the cached version of my pages are always fairly up to date...

Also - I do not currently sell any products. I make all my (small) income out out Adsense adverts - so the more page views the better...

[Tubby]

"how on earth did you get indexed that fast in google images?? It takes me more like 4 months to get a new image in google images!!"

There is no real trick to it, all it takes is plenty of links from plenty of pages. these things come naturally the more you build, just think as every link as a little road leading to your door, if you keep plodding along building, building, one day you find there is a big hyway directed right toward you. . google likes big hyways. It comes rumbling along picking up whatever it finds, throwing out what it doesn't like, storing what it does like. just like a big garbage truck, sorting and sifting trying to get the valuable stuff recycled to the public. . It will come Mate. . Just keep plodding along.

[jordanmcclements]

OK. Thanks.