Cool SEO Tool for FireFox Users

[incrediblehelp]

I know some of you may have already bumped into this tool over the last week or so, I blogged about it at my website, but it is so cool I have to post it at WPW.

Well as most of know FireFox is the best browser to use because it saves us so much time when working in the SEO and general online marketing field. Well Aaron Wall of SEOBook has put out another great tool for us to download and use. The FF extension is called SEO for FireFox. You can download it here:

SEO for Firefox (Beta)

Basically it lists a bunch of great data along your Yahoo and Google search results pages. Things like the page PR, website age, page in-bound links, etc are now viewable without having to click on the SERP.

You can find more of Aaron’s great tools here:

Search Engine Optimization Tools

Have fun!

[Webnauts]

Great post! I suggest everyone to try the Firefox extension too!

Thanks Jaan.

[kgun]

I am now using IE 7.0 on Windows Vista Beta 2.0 and my son that uses Opera and loves Google recently installed Opera 9.0.

He did not like Firefox. He also said that IE 7.0 now looks more like Opera.

P.S. I told him to use:
1. Opera.
2. FireFox.
3. Unix.

He is now using Windows Vista and already loves it. (Office 2007 Beta is also great).

So I need to install the third browser on my computer to use it. I recently deleted FireFox.

Is this Ad or a useful tool (it is a serious question)?

PR: (Google PageRank) an estimated measure of global link authority

Have you not recently devalued that top measure? Are the other more reliable and which are the most valuabel in your opinion?

IncredibelHelp wrote:


Page Rank on the toolbar is worth as much as this exhausting thread I just read through....nothing. I have been saying the toolbar PR number is for entertainment purposes only for at least a year now on this forum. Yes the concept of PR internal at Google definitely effects rankings, but the stupid green bar we all see doesn't.

PR is more of a formula/algorithm/weighting of a website IBL's and yes it effects rankings, but folks that is all internal at Google. We will never know exactly what PR means to a SERP until comes clean to public how they rank crappy websites over good ones.

The fact that half of these threads at WPW have a PR 5 should be enough for anyone to choke on the idea that green bar value mean more than what I flush down the toilet.

Now can I have my 10 minutes back from reading this thread?

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by kgun

Is this Ad or a useful tool (it is a serious question)

Is that a serious question?

Have you tried the tool? Much more to it than just showing the crappy PR number of the website. It consolidates a ton of information and populates it right in there in the SERP for you. You might want to try it before asking such a ridiculous question.

[kgun]

Is the below sentence from the FireFox download site credible?

PR: (Google PageRank) an estimated measure of global link authority.

This sentence devalues your credibility.

The fact that half of these threads at WPW have a PR 5 should be enough for anyone to choke on the idea that green bar value mean more than what I flush down the toilet.

[Webnauts]

Kgun, I had and still do have customers who actually have no idea about SEO, and they are asking me if I can manage that their site gets a higher PR, explaining me about that green bar. :)

If PR really make sence, it is an issue that I never really cared about.

I already have PR 6, and I strictly do not exchange links on my web site. And I will never do that for the Google PR.

Even if the bar will show sometime PR 0, that will not change my policy.

I only can say here, that I have a very high quality web site in terms of accessibility, seo, usability, credibility, markup, etc, and I am sure that Google is not able to judge the quality of my site anyway.

I don't want to act arrogant here, but I am sure that I do what I am preaching. :)

I design sites for humans, and not for machines. While humans are my clients, and not some bloody machines. ;)

[incrediblehelp]

Aaaaaarrggghhh, I give up. Must be language barrier here. Their are other uses for this tool other than the crappy PR toolbar number. I have said this three times now. Also my credibility is just fine, it is yours that diminishing fast and furiously by pushing the fact that the PR number in the G toolbar means anything at all.

As I have said so many f-ing times in this forum, the PR internal at Google is far different than the one that we see on that G toolbar toy that we all have installed. I wish Google would just take this number away from us so it stops the disinformation that is spreading out there about PR.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Kgun, I had and still do have customers who actually have no idea about SEO, and they are asking me if I can manage that their site gets a higher PR, explaining me about that green bar. :)

If PR really make sence, it is an issue that I never really cared about.

I already have PR 6, and I strictly do not exchange links on my web site. And I will never do that for the Google PR.

Even if the bar will show sometime PR 0, that will not change my policy.

I only can say here, that I have a very high quality web site in terms of accessibility, seo, usability, credibility, markup, etc, and I am sure that Google is not able to judge the quality of my site anyway.

I don't want to act arrogant here, but I am sure that I do what I am preaching. :)

I design sites for human, and not for machines. While humans are my clients, and not some bloody machines. ;)

Excellent. If you have seen my other posts I have one basic SEO rule.

Simple SEO rule:
Write dynamic quality content with simple, clean code and good headings.

My slogan:
Content / code is Queen. Refactoring to better content / code is King.

[Webnauts]

I think that the whole thing here is going off-topic.
Jaan introduced a tool, which others find useful and valuable, and others probably not.

So before I will have to close this thread, I would prefer that we can simply stay on-topic, discussing about the tool functionalities, etc.

Thanks.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

Their are other uses for this tool other than the crappy PR toolbar number. I have said this three times now.

I noted this in your first post, but aren't you shooting yourself in the foot devaluing the first measure?

Some of the other measures are complementary to the Google PR, they are not related at all. I do not find a better competitive measure. Google is a search engine, much more than algorithmes, not least bandwith, databasereplication, hardware, people ... That is directly or indirectly used as input to the PageRank computation

Do not mix measures (metrics). Do not use yards if you weight apples.

[Webnauts]

Kgun you can be sure that I follow your posts with a lot of interest. But that, only until they do not start flamming. :)

At this point, we are on the same side. And I am sure Jaan too.

And lets face it. We all do mistakes. What we said yesterday, maybe it is not valid today. Why? While we are learning continiously. So lets try to tollerate the mistakes of each other.

We are here to learn and share knowledge and experiences, and not to adopt techniques of higher logic, to convince others, that even if we are wrong that we are right.

Don't you think? :)

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

And lets face it. We all do mistakes. What we said yesterday, maybe it is not valid today. Why? While we are learning continiously. So lets try to tollerate the mistakes of each other.

I fully agree to that, and this business is developing so fast that what are accepted techniques today is spam tomorrow.

<off topic>
Definition of an economist: "A person that can explain today why what he said yesterday was wrong."

It is a profession, since everybody is not able to do that :-)
</off topic>

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by kgun

I fully agree to that, and this business is developing so fast that what is accepted technigues today is spam tomorrow.

I like this one. That is my basic doing SEO.

Originally Posted by kgun

<off topic>
Definition of an economist: "A person that can explain today why what he said yesterday was wrong."

It is a profession, since everybody is not able to do that :-)
</off topic>

<off topic>
And it looks like, that we all have to learn negotiating our way from confrontation to cooperation. Don't you think?
</off topic>

[crankydave]

Nice post Jaan. !

I'm not the biggest fan of FF but this add on makes it more useful for the few times I do use it. I prefer to browse the web using what most of my visitors and potential visitors use. I want to see the web the way they see it.

<offtopic>
kgun... My null hypothesis, PR is completely useless when it comes to ranking. You have to reject it by statistical means... BUT NOT IN THIS THREAD!
</offtopic>

Dave

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by crankydave

<offtopic>
kgun... My null hypothesis, PR is completely useless when it comes to ranking. You have to reject it by statistical means... BUT NOT IN THIS THREAD!
</offtopic>

Dave

Exactly. Not in this thread please. Thanks Dave.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by crankydave

PR is completely useless when it comes to ranking.
Dave

Assumption: By useless you mean no correlation (linear relationship).
Then you disagree with this threads starter and DrTandem1 if I do not remember wrong.

But be sure, I will not try to prove or disprove it.

I close there.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by kgun

"A person that can explain today why what he said yesterday was wrong."

Kgun, may I use that quote in my signatures? :)

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Kgun, may I use that quote in my signatures? :)

No problem :-)

[brian.mark]

Nice little tool... and his sense of humor at the bottom about throwing the computer out the window rules.

Brian.