seoinc - are they experts?

[tupyguarani]

does anyone knows about the work that seoinc.com does? are they ethical, efficient? do they bring results? Is what they do spam?
I'm thinking about getting a optimization work done with these guys and need some feedback if possible.

[fathom]

Originally Posted by tupyguarani

does anyone knows about the work that seoinc.com does? are they ethical,

It would seem so - to date anyway.

efficient?

6 out of 10 - in my book

do they bring results?

This is difficult to assess since no two websites, or industries, or markets are the same... an SEO already familiar with a specific industry/market will always produce better results than a blind, same as any other approach

Is what they do spam?

hmmm... what is spam -- really. There are so many layers here and so many different definitions you will never get a definitive answer.

The inside scoop -- the original members of SEOinc took Robin Nobles SEO course - and after started into SEO. There is nothing wrong with this approach - but she really doesn't teach "current" practices.

That was however a while back - and as most SEO's and the art or science (or both) of SEOing is mostly self taught, trial & error, a bit of research and lots of observation plus reading, writing and getting feedback from your writings -- if they currently do all of this... they are likely quite good for the money you pay.

I'm damn good - my fees are also commensurate with my level of knowledge, skill, the competitiveness of industries that I will attempt to work in, the resources that I invest into each contract - plus the relationship I develop with each client and the training that also goes into it so that each client can appreciate the decisions they need to make.

I'm thinking about getting a optimization work done with these guys and need some feedback if possible.

Would I highly recommend them -- if you can't budget (or don't like me :-)) - sure thing -- I have never heard one bad thing about them (and I get around quite a bit in the industry).

Some words of caution (no matter who you commence working with).

Be sure to look for and thoroughly review any disclaimers. If zero disclaimers and the SEO just throughs caution to the wind - is more likely one to avoid. Sept. 11th saw a huge drop in searches (at least ones for products/services, nature desaters occurs all the time - and beyond the control of SEO's - but professionals protect themselves and offer protection to the customer as well - look for these.

Also - in todays game ranks means less than traffic (unique visitors) and traffic means less than conversions. You are obviously (as most business owners) are interested in conversions -- unfortunately SEO isn't to that level of guarantee...

Notwithstanding - if the sales pitch is "only" ranks be much more cautious.

It is also worth being a little preemptive in your questions to the choice companies to see what their responses are.

Like -- what is their contingency plan for the Yahoo/Google/Inktomi change in the near future and how will this affect your ranks/traffic/sales... if they don't know... they're not forward thinking. As SEO is 100% about "change" thus about forward thinking... what to do when?

Ranks decline, Google changes tactics or algos, competition increases, or the dread of "spammers" overwhelms your site... these are big, even huge unknowns and the last thing you want to hear is the SEO quoting a disclaimer that wasn't clearly pointed out at the beginning or isn't going to fulfill the contract (nor refund your money either). If they guarantee results - and then say too difficult to obtain - whose fault is this - theirs or yours... who suppose to know the job of SEO and that all websites are not equal, nor industries nor markets.

Remember sometimes your site just can't compete e.g. your site is 10 pages, and your competitors all have 10,000 pages, or you have 5 backlinks and are a search engine (needing a few more than this... all SEO's will need deep pocket in these occurrences... or you will.

If I don't/can't go with your firm -- who would you recommend - and why?

You should always interview two or three companies, and more if possible -- the first thing most clients forget - they are a valuable commodity, particularly if you are soliciting the SEO... use this to your advantage - let each SEO know who you are dealing with (and why) and let them all, together help you determine who will get your "valuable" business.

This approach tends to demonstrate the best way to get the most out of your money, the most out of the servicing company while avoiding the pitfalls of employing "bad practices", underperformance, and lastly finding out - you made a big mistake.