Before You Post SEO Questions on WPW, Consider This!

[incrediblehelp]

OK we all know that WPW has become a great location for for asking and finding out info on search engine marketing. For that reason many of the questions that some of the newbie's out there could have been asked before. Before posting your question on the forum considering doing this query on Google and seeing if their might be a related thread out there that can help you.

It is simple. Go to Google and use the site operator along with the keywords from your question. Here is an example thread of someone wondering about their title appearing in the Google. I remember discussing Google doing this with description tags from DMOZ before so I went to Google type this in the search box this:

site:http://www.webproworld.com/ DMOZ description in Google

and found this in the first few results:

http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=42848

You might occasionally see me referencing old threads for certain questions. This is all I do to find them and I think every newbie should consider doing so before posting to help eliminate repetitive questions.

[kgun]

I use the following techniques to find posts:

1. Your above technique.
2. If I know the person who started the post, look up posts by her / his name.
3. Use site search. May be site search should be improved?

There has been posts that I have not found by the first technique, posts that has not been indexed by the SE's?

advanced SEO kgun site:www.webproworld.com

May be it is improved now, but the post I am looking for is not found on the first SERP.

If I click on my user name and list all posts started by kgun, I find the post:

Basics for advanced SEO

[ctabuk]

I think that this is a unique post and I'm pleased to say that I made it a sticky. Carry on chaps well done David

[internet-marketing-cr]

Thanks Jaan, great help for us newbie's, I already did a couple searches in some topics I was interested in and it worked perfectly, I'll keep that in mind.

[kgun]

Here at WPW there is written much about SEO, but the subject in the heading has not been treated in a systematic manner as far as I know. I found and interesting article about this subject at Sitepoint. Here is the conclusion for the big three:

"Thus, this experiment established the fact that the leading search engines differ considerably in terms of the the amount of page text they're able to crawl. For Yahoo!, the limit is 210KB; for Google, 520KB; and for MSN, it's 1030KB. Pages smaller than these sizes are indexed fully, while any text that extends beyond those limits will not be indexed".
Source

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by kgun

Here at WPW there is written much about SEO, but the subject in the heading has not been treated in a systematic manner as far as I know. I found and interesting article about this subject at Sitepoint. Here is the conclusion for the big three:

"Thus, this experiment established the fact that the leading search engines differ considerably in terms of the the amount of page text they're able to crawl. For Yahoo!, the limit is 210KB; for Google, 520KB; and for MSN, it's 1030KB. Pages smaller than these sizes are indexed fully, while any text that extends beyond those limits will not be indexed".
Source

What does this have to do with the theme of this thread?

[kgun]

Is this post relevant?

Regarding your comment.
It is new SEO content here at WPW as far as I know.

Thoughts (guidelines) on how you shall format your sites pages and for example use the inverted Pyramide style to write for the web.

SEO is also about design, formatting, navigation etc. In other words, how content is written and presented.

Conclusion based on the article:
So the way todays, SEBots index pages (content), there may be an optimal length of pages.

[incrediblehelp]

The post was about researching topics before posting questions that have been asked before WPW. That has nothing to do with what you are posting:

Originally Posted by kgun

Thoughts (guidelines) on how you shall format your sites pages and for example use the inverted Pyramide style to write for the web.

SEO is also about design, formatting, navigation etc. In other words, how content is written and presented.

Conclusion based on the article:
So the way todays, SEBots index pages (content), there may be an optimal length of pages.

[kgun]

Agree to that. A moderator can

delete my posts or move it to another / new tread and delete this post.

[incrediblehelp]

Should we make this topic sticky again. I think everyone should know how to find out posts on WPW, before posting duplicate questions.

[kgun]

I agree.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

I think that this is a unique post and I'm pleased to say that I made it a sticky. Carry on chaps well done David

It didn't stick 0-:

It's half way down the page now.

[incrediblehelp]

I think ctabuk made it sticky months ago. Can it be done again? I dont know how to do it.

[ctabuk]

It can be done - I think I know how!

CTABUK Self Edit - Done - I have a magic wand. Admin, leave it up please

[steven bradley]

Thanks incrediblehelp, that is probably one of the best bits of advice I've seen relating to searching. Quite simple really, but very sensible.

Steve

[khurramali]

maybe you can just put Google site search to work for WPW.

[writergrrrl48]

I was hoping to use this way to search, since the site search has been an abysmal failure for me in almost every forum I've participated in.

But I tried this:

site:http://www.webproworld.com/Visibility Pro

and got nothing, even though a few minutes later I opened my eyes and saw the first thread on the page was about VP.

- Is the key term just not indexed yet by G? I wondered if that's why my search didn't turn up anything ...

thanks

[incrediblehelp]

You need a space inbetween the URL and keyword

site:http://www.webproworld.com/ Visibility Pro

[idansh]

you mean ebay LOL

[incrediblehelp]

By the way Google trick doesnt work as good as it used to. Now that they switched the forum over without 301 redirecting old threads to the news ones. I would wait until the new threads get fully index and the old ones drop out. Right now most all missing threads are 301 redirecting to the home page.

[steverobinson]

it is the great way for search engine

[steverobinson]

i think that's good technique

[steverobinson]

WPW is good method of search

[idansh]

very good method for searching, it help, thnx alot

[coolguy27]

Thanks for the tips... Really Appreciated...

[kgun]

Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

Here is an example thread of someone wondering about their title appearing in the Google.

That does not function. Some threads have been deleted or moved to parts of the forum where it is difficult to find them.

Where is the Accessibility forum?

As an example look at this thread:
Web browsers converging to net operating systems?

Click on the link (or the links above):

Modern webbrowsers, accessibility and usability.

Now that the forum has perma links, those should be used to minimize the amount of broken links or links taking you to nowhere.

[incrediblehelp]

Yeah I cant help that this thread was old and many forum links dont work because of redesign done by the Admins, Kjell.

[textypisni32]

Agree: many forum links dont work because of redesign .

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[ursfehr]

hat is probably one of the best bits of advice I've seen relating to searching. Quite simple really, but very sensible.

[terryson01]

Wow, gr8 discussion.
this is informative for me.

Thanks to all.

[ericajoieake]

yes it should be, because most of the newbie didn't read about the what already asked.

[edhan]

Agreed. But sometimes when doing a search for the question to be asked may not be so easy as it may not turn out in the search result even though it is somehow similar. So, before I ask the question, I always hope to find the answer in search as it will save alot of my time waiting for the answer instead.

[jamesfoster]

Its a good way of searching. It will be very helpful and we can get answers quickly.

[maxp]

My question was complicated to be googled in a query so I posted it

[thyseo]

It's easier to ask questions in this forum than it is to surf the pages you are given to find them. But I know what your saying, when you see the same things asked over and over again.

[avoir des goûts simples]

Originally Posted by thyseo

It's easier to ask questions in this forum than it is to surf the pages you are given to find them. But I know what your saying, when you see the same things asked over and over again.

It is just the same ... Sometimes we are just being lazy to research but most of the time we don't really understand unless someone explain it to us

[kohc0004]

I am so glad that I able to find this forum only dedicated to SEO, my pet topic. I have been running around for real info and now my dilemma is solved. Too many winds of doctrine in the SEO topics that one can confused.