Pyramid Link System

[MrLeN]

I am currently having a program made by a programmer friend. It is a pyramid link system. However, to make sure that the links increase PR the only way to access the user code is via an include file. Basically, here's what will happen:

A user submits their URL. They receive some code to place in their site 1 minute later. That code will have 5 links and an "add your site" link (which has a referral code and leads to a signup form on my site). Then when user two signs up, they will get the code, but user 1's link will be now in #2 pos and the new user will have #1 pos, and so on.

I will also have a cheating mechanism. All users must have the code on their index page. If they don't they will lose their entire line. I will encourage new users to click the links on their code. If one of the users does not have the code on their index page, then the user who let that be known will inherit that persons entire line. Even if it contains thousands of links. So I will have ample people checking for cheaters. Cheaters who join and then remove the code wont last long. They'll have to start again. There will be a form to submit cheaters and I will remove them.

I may even have a part added to the admin area later, which checks the index page of all members and informs me of which ones are not linking.

This script and site will be ready over the next couple of weeks. The great thing about it is that it will not use frames or JavaScript. The system will appear on sites as actual HTML. So theoretically, if someone joins and two people join under them, and so on, it would only take 5 generations for them to have a link on 32 websites. That could happen in days.

After 5 generations user 1's link will drop off. That way it will not go on forever and ever. So there is a maximum of 32 links if the user attracts 2 users and if all those users attract 2 users. But if user 1 attracts 100 users, and if those users attract only 2 users each, that would be 3200 links. It all depends on how popular a site is to begin with. A very popular site would naturally attract many more signups.

I will also have partner link categories. So that people with "car" websites can submit to the "car" system. People with "shopping" websites can submit to the "shopping" system. Therefore all parties involved will have related links on related websites with related traffic and a good PR in a very short amount of time from only 2 minutes work :)

Regarding search engines. I don't see a problem with what I am doing. But search engines can be funny. Hey the links are related right? They're "limited". What's the diff?

The partner link box will look something like this:

Partners:
www.user1.com
www.anotheruser.com
www.anotheruser.com
www.anotheruser.com
www.anotheruser.com
Add your site

Who thinks it will do well? Would you use it? I don't think search engines would like this, but then again, I don't think they'd be able to tell.


MrLeN

[ctabuk]

If you read other forum posts on this, the basic conception is that 'Yes the SE's will know about it' Getting links is what we are all about - BUT it is quality links that count - both IN and OUT - pyramid schemes simply do not work. You start out with good intentions no doubt - but in the long run, and please tell us in a years time, because I know you Len, you will do it in any event - but come back in 12 months and tell us the end results.

[MrLeN]

lol, ok :)

I think the beneficial part of what I am creating is that it's not an endless pyramid. There is a limit. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word pyramid. Maybe I should have titled this thread: "Partner Link System".

Personally, I feel it's a great way to get your link onto many sites. Also, each submission will be reviewed. Only quality sites will be accepted. No gambling, porn or illegal sites will be allowed. No sites with popups either.

Actually, there's not much difference between what I am creating and Google adsense/adwords. Except I wont be charging :)

Comparison:

1).
-Adwords is intended to show links on related searches/websites.
-My system is intended to show links on related websites.

2).
-Adwords requires no promotional effort and doesn't take a site's relevance into account.
-My system requires some promotional effort and does take a site's relevance into account.

3).
-Adwords charges.
-I will not.

Also, if someone has 1000 links in the system, it is in their best interest to keep their site "professional", because if someone reports them as "breaking the rules", the system will have the power to permanently wipe out their PR. Therefore, this system will induce professionalism. The system will be able to dictate in the "guidelines" what's professional and what's not :)

..but they will be intelligent guidelines.

I will make sure all users know that there are no second chances. Add a popup, remove the code, start keyword stuffing or whatever, and they're risking losing their PR. There will be many members sweating to see someone breaking the rules, so they can inherit their PR.

The more I think about it, the more I feel I'd be doing search engines a service.

I would actually charge for the service. I think $299 is a nice starting point. But I can't guarantee users that search engines wont turn around and bite my system and all sites involved. Which would leave me in a severe financial mess. I have already written to Google and asked them if they have a problem with what I am building, and I have offered to take their recommendations into account.

But like you said, I'm going to do it anyway. Google can cooperate, or they'll have to take the power of the mighty MrLeN and all his resource* on - muahahahaha. lol

MrLeN

* S purposefully left out.

[ctabuk]

I have gone on record as saying that if anyone could produce a quality link submission programme that has integrity, quality links etc - then they deserve to make their fortune - BUT and here is the downside, say if you created an instant submission programme that had say 100 Google links, 300 MSN 300 Yahoo and 300 to various others and you sold it out at $299 - well you'd probably get a lot of takers. But then you could end up with thousands of sites all with the same links!! Now if you seperated them into categories related to the sites intended market, like commerce, real estate, hotels etc and had 1000 of each. Now you would or could make a fortune. And I'll go on record here in the public forum - if and I mean if you think you could do that I would look seriously at it as a business venture.

[MrLeN]

Basically, there will be thousands of websites showing combinations of the same/similar links. However, there are only "5" links and "1000's" of websites. Therefore, the majority of the websites would display different links than to each other.

Also, because links drop off the bottom after 5 generations, those links would always be changing and being updated.

In all honesty, if there were such a program running today, and if I could join it with "a pat on the back" from major search engines, as opposed to an evil squinty glare, I'd drop $299 quicker than you could blink twice.

Another good thing is that no one would pay $299 on a site that wasn't professional.

Come to think of it, there are even more benefits.

- If a site stops promoting links, their current links would eventually be replaced by others. This would mean that an ailing site would significantly lose PR. Very natural.

- If a site is extremely popular and causes many signups, it would gain a massive PR. But if that "popularity" is unnatural (ie: the result of an expensive advertising campaign) the PR would fade out over time. The site would meet the fate of the point above.

- All sites that are in the system would literally TOWER over sites that are not in the system for PR. This would deem all similar programs, link pages, topsites and directories practically useless. Most of which do nothing more than confuse the daylights out of search engines. BONUS! A great service to search engines and the free world :)

- Basically the inflation of PR would be astronomical, but at the end of the day, the Internet would have a system for policing PR. There would be a "system" which every site would be plugged in to, and if someone breaks the rules, they don't lose their PR and have to start again.

- Ban lists wouldn't have to be kept. Losing 50,000 links and total PR would be a big enough reason for people to not do what ever they did to cause their URL to be wiped from the system.

If such a system were to become global, it would have to be free. It wouldn't be fair to charge everyone. But as a pilot program, I think it would be well worth paying $299 to be a part of.

The more I think about it, the more I think I should stop posting. I'm solving All of Goggle's problems here. They'll take the Idea off me and I'll get zip.

Ok, I am copyrighting this thread as of now!

If anyone takes my idea, I'll sue!

MrLeN

Copyright: MrLeN - 2006

[Chris]

i'm moving this to the search engine section...

[ctabuk]

Oh Good, I get to Moderate

[Chris]

i had to delete posts from:

Deliguy
Graf1771

because of the date issue. again, if anyone is having problems posting, email me at chris@webpronews.com

[kgun]

If anyone takes my idea, I'll sue!

What about BannersGoMLM?

I think they make money.

Note there are legal and illegal Pyramid Schemes

I have collected links since 1995.

It is not about who you are my friend, but about who people believe you are.

Get the right network and you can sell snow to the eskimos.

Booking is like going through a mine field. Do not stop, but walk straight forward. Do not look to the right or the left and you may succeed.

[paulsmith101]

quite frankely im going to say no, but id love you to prove me wrong.

Pyramid schemes are so 1980'2 - however you use them ;)

[Deliguy]

I think the first step in making this link pyramid sucessful is to not call it a link pyramid. Call it something like 1-way controled links, you get my idea. People frown upon the word pyramid. Sounds too much like pyramid scheme.
Check out my other post "Linking trends for 2006" for an idea on how to structure your link pyramid.

[incrediblehelp]

I understand your intentions may seem well, but the fact is this won't work for the long haul. Google and the rest are all about relevant link+content that communicates (links) to another website about this relevant content and link. How would you linking scheme deliver this? Simple linking from one website to another like a irrelevant link ring, to boost PR wont do much for rankings on specific keywords. This has been said many times: PR does not equate to rankings.