Search Engine List

dwpenney · #1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 12:06 AM

Can someone point me to a website that has a list of all the search engines that I can submit sites too. I know of the big ones (Google, Alta Vista, Dmoz, etc.). I am looking for other major ones that you can submit a site too without paying.

Thanks,

Donnie Penney
dwpenney@dwpwebsites.com

Mili · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 10:44 AM

Well, you can check out http://selfpromotion.com/. The list is pretty huge, though you'll also find suggestions for to other sites that have listings of SE's.

You can do automated submissions, or you can do your own. I prefer to do manual submissions, since I can more or less tailor my site descriptions and keywords to each SE.

Which means that even though my basic (skeletal) info is in an account at SelfPromotion, I go in every 2 months or so to see the listings of the SE's that I might want to check out.

BTW, SelfPromotion is free, free, free.

- Mili -

DanThies · #3 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 01:14 PM

Just a quick note on submitting. I haven't bothered submitted anything to any of the major search engines, since late summer 2001. If you work on getting linked into the community of related websites, you'll get found and crawled without submitting or paying.

There are only a few "major" crawling search engines left:
1. AllTheWeb (formerly owned by FAST, now owned by Overture)
2. Altavista (now owned by Overture, probably going away soon)
3. Google (owned by... Google!)
4. Inktomi (now owned by Yahoo)

Beyond these, MSN has a new experimental spider crawling the web, which will probably end up driving part of their search results one day. Looksmart has Wisenut.com's "Wisebot" crawling. Ask.com has Teoma crawling the web. All of them will find your site on their own, if you work on building up links from other sites.

An article you might want to check out, a bit dated in terms of who owns which crawler, but the strategy is still the same:
http://www.webpronews.com/articles/1111dthies.html

When I launch a site, I work on a few key link partnerships early on, so the links go live the day the site launches. We normally get crawled by all the spiders within a couple weeks. Submitting (other than paid inclusion) does not appear to speed this up at all, and might even slow things down.

redwitch15236 · #4 (**permalink**) 07-13-2003, 12:41 PM

what does this mean, link to related web sites?

DanThies · #5 (**permalink**) 07-13-2003, 12:49 PM

If you have a site about growing potatoes, link with other sites about growing potatoes, farming, gardening, etc.. Linking to online casinos would not make a lot of sense to your visitors.

redwitch15236 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-14-2003, 10:04 AM

ok, makes sense, but how do you link to these other sites?

gamma · #7 (**permalink**) 07-14-2003, 02:39 PM

A partial list of Search Engines you can find here
http://www.submitplus.com/list.htm

jholcomb · #8 (**permalink**) 07-15-2003, 01:37 AM

Send them a nice email and ask redwitch! There's no harm done if they say no. Still, be persistant if they don't answer you. Don't just give up.

Make sure links that lead to your site are related to your content and you'll do well.

DanThies · #9 (**permalink**) 07-15-2003, 09:17 AM

The "linking matters" report is free, and very helpful in that regard:
http://www.linkingmatters.com

vilesilencer · #10 (**permalink**) 01-13-2004, 11:49 PM

dwpenney,

I have a list of 54 free-to-submit search engines all linked on my site (see signature).

DanThies is correct in relation to the larger search engines. In time they end up spidering your site anyways. I never submitted to google and the bot visits me 20+ times a day, and I'm listed at number 1 for my particular keywords.

However, in relation to those smaller search engines, that many people over look but which provide a small percentage of useful traffic, if you don't submit you miss out.