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Old 12-27-2005, 06:57 PM
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I'm thinking of sneaky ways google would classify a site as "quality" and I'm looking for other people's thoughts, experience.

I have very little text on my website, this is because the content is entirely moving pictures and javascript...http://www.netvue.com

but I'm wondering to use all the other means google might use to determine quality.

-Languages
wouldn't it be easy for google to detect if your site was mutli-lingual? I've already modified my HTTP headers to give UTF-8 as the charset. but what if I add language tags, or if I translated the first page to have "espanol" "duetsche" "francais" across the top...(maybe meta tags for languages?)

-HTTP "If-modified-since" header
I've been reading on google's site that this is a good thing to support (saving bandwidth). Although my site is dynamic driven..I can manually set the "date-modified" header, but will I be penalized in PageRank if they send a an "if-modified-since" header and the whole page spits out regardless?

-P3P
This seems to be little-talked about on the internet. But I can imagine google taking P3P privacy headers into account when determining site quality - especially when it detects forms on the pages. Any thoughts?

-Google sitemap.xml
I'm using this...it doesn't seem to do much for me...

-Hosting Service
Google could easily detect how many other sites are running from the same IP. Will that hurt me if I'm on shared hosting with 500 other sites?

For some reason, I'm not indexed at all on google searches for the keywords I'm using, even though far lesser-ranked sites than mine are on page 10, but i'm nowhere to be seen, even though I've got the exact matches in the title and meta tags.

I wonder if my "keyword phrase" is somehow sandboxing me for a certain amount of time. My site DOES come up in the index if you ask for it by the name "netvue" though.

There was an issue with my hosting provider's DNS the other day..I reckon my site was unreachable for half the internet for a couple days...my pagerank seemed to drop from 5 to 3 because of this. Am I wrong to assume that? I've been playing legit.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:07 PM
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-Languages
wouldn't it be easy for google to detect if your site was mutli-lingual? I've already modified my HTTP headers to give UTF-8 as the charset. but what if I add language tags, or if I translated the first page to have "espanol" "duetsche" "francais" across the top...(maybe meta tags for languages?)
I never recommend making your site 'multi-lingual'. Keep it to one language per domain name. If your site is in French, get links from on-topic sites that are also in French.

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-HTTP "If-modified-since" header
I've been reading on google's site that this is a good thing to support (saving bandwidth). Although my site is dynamic driven..I can manually set the "date-modified" header, but will I be penalized in PageRank if they send a an "if-modified-since" header and the whole page spits out regardless?
No, you won't be penalized. If-modified-since has absolutely nothing to do with PageRank. In fact, I recommend not sending an if-modified-since header.

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-P3P
This seems to be little-talked about on the internet. But I can imagine google taking P3P privacy headers into account when determining site quality - especially when it detects forms on the pages. Any thoughts?
Google isn't looking at privacy headers and I doubt they ever will--especially because it could be abused by webmasters.

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-Google sitemap.xml
I'm using this...it doesn't seem to do much for me...
Do everything you can to stay far far away from Google sitemaps--they're only good if you cannot get your pages indexed by any other means (through a normal crawl as a result of links).

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Google could easily detect how many other sites are running from the same IP. Will that hurt me if I'm on shared hosting with 500 other sites?
Google looks for sites that are cross-linked that are on the same IP or the same Class C Block of IPs. As long as you don't cross-link domains you'll be fine. It doesn't matter if your site shares the same server with 500 or 10,000 other sites. Just don't cross-link domains you own or domains on the same IP or same Class C Block.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:33 PM
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hmm..VERY interesting about crosslinking amongst domains. That's probably slowing me down. I had put "image search engine" in the anchor text of links on those three(yes, only 3) other domains which are hosted on the same server. And it seems like I specifically do not show up in google's index for the phrase "image search engine".


Does that also hold true for subdomains?

I have imagefinder.netvue.com which is an image search software, I'm linking from there to www.netvue.com, the image search site. do you think that would actually "hurt" me?

About sitemap-
I jumped through the hoops to set that up because I thought I would get more "stylized" results under google's index..like how seatguru.com has direct links for "Frequently Asked Questions, About, Contact, etc." under their listing.

How do they do that anyway?

-lake
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:17 AM
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About sitemap-
I jumped through the hoops to set that up because I thought I would get more "stylized" results under google's index..like how seatguru.com has direct links for "Frequently Asked Questions, About, Contact, etc." under their listing.

How do they do that anyway?

-lake
My best guess for how that happens is when most of the incoming links aren't to the homepage. If you search for tool parts, we get those nifty extras, but most of our links go to deeper pages than the homepage.

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