Someone finally copied my website!

[scanmonkey]

Originally Posted by Faglork

Or what? I don't get it.

faglork

I didn't get it either.

[google junky]

timmathews,

Are you really that bored that you can't make a site with real and original content for your yourself.

If your intention was to redeem yourself then you have failed. You waited entirely too long to make the changes and are on a blacklist in my opinion.

Best of luck with your playtime

[incrediblehelp]

So sad Tim. So sad.

[incrediblehelp]

Mike (from WPW) how do you now feel about one of your own members cutting and pasting an entire thread from WPW on to one of his websites?

Obviously this was my concern before, but now he seems to be targeting you yet he is still an active member here. Why?

Tim this is so childish. I just wonder if you can post to the entire WPW why you are doing it? Don't you think your rep here is tarnished enough?

[mrshdm]

All I can say, is if one person has the guts to copy your site to harm your rankings, who's to say that there aren't more people willing to do it?! Some people obviously have nothing else better to do, which is very sad for those of us who are trying to work hard at keeping things legit!!

[incrediblehelp]

It is not so much that someone copied it. That happens to me and others all the time. It is just someone from WPW that did it and continues to do dumb stuff like this that bothers me.

We cant hide from SPAM. It is going to happen, but I wouldn't expect it from someone at this forum.

[Jabber_uk]

I have read this thread from beginning to end with rapt attention this afternoon (UK).

I must say I am astonished! I cannot believe that a WPW member of 400+ posts would act in such a disgraceful way.

Tim - you were asked to stop quite nicely it seems last year and you didn't. All I can say is "what goes around comes around" & "You reap what you sew".

WPW - I think you need to ban this loser from your site - not because we all hate him but because the high standing with which we all think of WPW will go down if this sort of thing is not stopped.

Incredihelp - All I can say is keep up the good work here in WPW - I always appreciate your posts as I can see they are relevant and posted from experience too.

l8r guys

Just my humble thoughts

EDIT:

How the hell can he get a PR of 3 when he doesnt even have any html tags or anything - all he has is a table!

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Jabber_uk

I have read this thread from beginning to end with rapt attention this afternoon (UK).


How the hell can he get a PR of 3 when he doesnt even have any html tags or anything - all he has is a table!

Did you read the whole thread?

[Jabber_uk]

Originally Posted by kgun

Did you read the whole thread?

Don't ask me to repeat it word for word (short term memory retention is not my best feature ;-) ) but yes kgun I did.

[kgun]

But did he not buy (take over) a site with pagerank? I also read the whole thread, but my memory may be wrong.

JKomp, a WPW moderator, he is using bad redirects and harmless hacking.

UK 1 Norway 11 or UK 2 Norway 10. Ask JKomp or look in the breakroom :-)

P.S.
And if that is the worst incrediblehelp has experienced, it is peanuts.

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by kgun

But did he not buy (take over) a site with pagerank? I also read the whole thread, but my memory may be wrong.

JKomp, a WPW moderator, he is using bad redirects and harmless hacking.

UK 1 Norway 11 or UK 2 Norway 10. Ask JKomp or look in the breakroom :-)

P.S.
And if that is the worst incrediblehelp has experienced, it is peanuts.

kgun ok I have no idea what jkomp has to do with this thread and I don't care to know what he is or is not doing outside of the forum unless it effects me.

Of course this is not the "worst" thing I have experienced, but that is clearly not the point of the thread. It was to inform most that use WPW as a source of help that a member of the forum was doing something like this.

Sorry if I cant follow many of your explanations, but the translation effort is just to great when trying to understand what you are typing sometimes.

[kgun]

I tried to calm down and mentioned that a moderator here could use bad redirects on this forum without being excluded as moderator.

That is very serious in my view? Aren't we all fighting bad redirects?

Perhaps I am not a funny guy after all. And I have seen moderators start flames. I have no time to look up the threads.

[incrediblehelp]

kgun I have nothing against you, but I don't appreciate name dropping by any means. If I regular Joe, and MVP or mod is doing black hat, white hat, gray hat techniques to rank I would not appreciate being called out on it on the WPW forum. Now if they were doing things to target members websites, then I think we should name drop on the forum. We are not talking about Matt using black hat techniques to rank that is different. Matt was obviously targeting me outside the forum and he was member here so that is the way the thread progressed. Remember at the beginning of the thread I didn't know it was Matt!

[kgun]

Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

kgun I have nothing against you,

Why should I bother, I try to tell what I mean or not consciously please you or anybody else.

I agree on names, but who are you talking about? My responsibility to mention a moderator and if his nick is mentionened in two / three threads is the only reaction he gets for using bad redirects in this forum, IMO it is a mild reaction.

Time to stop / close this thread?

[incrediblehelp]

See kgun right there. I have no idea how to read that post because of the language barrier. Closing the thread is not a bad idea though.

[Jabber_uk]

lol I don't understand a lot of this stuff - all I know is that a (respected) WPW member (incrediblehelp) was bringing to our attention the issues he faced.

For me it was/is quite simple - another WPW member was disregarding requests to take down the duplicate content - then the cheek of it the site shows exactly the same content as this thread at a particular point in time. To me thats like sticking the middle finger up at your neighbours - not nice at all.

Anyway, the site is still showing 'up yours' content (duplcating WPW posts) - is anything going to be done about it? What if that site then decides to replicate other WPW member sites?

hmmmmmmm food for thought....

[dharrison]

I wondered why this thread had got up again and OMG who needs soap operas when you have threads like this??

I agree with Jabber_uk, but I am sure that the staff here are in the process of dealing with the matter/persons involved.

Incredible, your blog and redirect articles are amazing and I can understand that it must be infuriating not just to have someone copy your content, but actually have that someone effectively "rubbing your nose in it" . I have someone stringing me along at this present time for a different reason. All I can say is that you have more patience than me.

Kgun, even if you don't agree with someone else's actions it was unneccessary and wrong to dish the dirt on someone else.

Sorry just my quids worth. I shall now get off my soapbox now.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by dharrison

Kgun, even if you don't agree with someone else's actions it was unneccessary and wrong to dish the dirt on someone else.

I take the responsibility for that as I told above, and in my view it is a mild reaction for me having to shut down my computer (hit the off button) because of a bad redicect. That was exactly what I did.

You can loose important things residing in memory when you shut down the computer in that way.

Did you know, that if you have a bad enough redirect with browser hijacking etc. an intruder can take over (as an administrator) of your computer. You are not allowed to install software on your own computer. Depending on your computer abilities, it may take you from 10 minutes to days to restore your computers state.

But that is peanuts.

Time to close this thread?

[dharrison]

Originally Posted by kgun

I take the responsibility for that as I told above, and in my view it is a mild reaction for me having to shut down my computer (hit the off button) because of a bad redicect. That was exactly what I did.

You can loose important things residing in memory when you shut down the computer in that way.

Did you know, that if you have a bad enough redirect with browser hijacking etc. an intruder can take over (as an administrator) of your computer. You are not allowed to install software on your own computer. Depending on your computer abilities, it may take you from 10 minutes to days to restore your computers state.

Actually I do agree with you and such an experience would also leave a bad taste in my mouth, but don't you think that a discreet PM to the webmaster (or the like) is a far better method? Then if it is a genuine mistake, it can be rectified without any bad PR? Anyway that was then..

Originally Posted by kgun

Time to close this thread?

I think it might be long overdue. C'mon guys! :)

[scanmonkey]

O.K.

1) Incrediblehelp had his website copied onto a domain http://www.topseo.net/
2) Tim Mattews shows up and wants to sell the domain http://www.topseo.net/
3) He pulls Incrediblehelp's content and replaces it with this wpw thread.

I don't know if Tim Mathews motive was to harm the ranking of Incredible. Perhaps he had another motive or intention. Perhaps he has no motive. It was a joke or he was smoking something.

To me the point is that the copyright of Incredible's site was violated and Tim Mathews could have made it all disappear by pulling the content and going low profile. Rather he decided to copy this thread onto topseo.net.

Tim Mathews needs to do stop infringing on copyrights and he should pull this thread from the topseo.net

[timmathews.com]

Foly Huck man.
Look.
Yes, I bought topseo.net.
Yes I wanted to sell topseo.net.
Yes, comtent was copied (not by me, but hell, when someone starts slagging me off, why would I want to help and remove it?).
Yes, copied content is still there (Now the wpw thread as I figured it would PLEASE some people, and give a little retribution for bad decisions, yet PEOPLE STILL FIND REASONS TO COMPLAIN).
No, the intention was not to hurt Jaan (incrediblehelp).
No, the intention was not to hurt wpw.
The copied content from jaan has been removed for months.
I am on vacation, and when I get back to Chicago, you guys will see topseo.net in a new light.
I am finished posting in this thread, and will no longer read it.
If you have smack to talk, save it and grow up.
As for all you ppl talking smack about something you know nothing about...
Cheers

PS, Thanks Chris & Mike.

[cz]

I have just completed this arduous thread and I'm amazed by Tim Mathews cavalier attitude about the situation - summed up in his last post.

I for one see Top Seo in a new light, to be sure and the only one "talking smack" is Mr. Mathews!

I hear the rumble of the karmic wheel coming around already. As you sow......

[scanmonkey]

Tim,

It doesn't seem that you have learned anything from this and you are still on vacation.

Originally Posted by timmathews.com

Yes, comtent was copied (not by me, but hell, when someone starts slagging me off, why would I want to help and remove it?).

If you own the domain, you are responsible for the content regardless of who copied it. The owner of the content is within their rights to complain.

Rather than taking care of the problem in a professional manner you have let it develop into a discusion thread on a public forum. So I'm adding my 2 cents.

[stretch dog]

Just curious.... what is the quickest, easiest and most efficient way to determine if someone has "copied" pages of content or mirrored your site?

Just the quickest and most efficient please...

[adacprogramming]

This is about as easy as it gets :)
http://copyscape.com/

[incrediblehelp]

Looks like topseo.net is now down. Long over due, but at the least the copying has stopped.

[Jabber_uk]

:O topseo.net is down? I'm going to go cry in the corner (not) :P

[janeth]

It looks like all Tim's sites are down, or at lest the sites I tried to pull up.

Maybe he stayed on vaction to long and is now out of business?

[nexttrump]

Wow, I wonder how often a site is copied?

[kgun]

Originally Posted by janeth

It looks like all Tim's sites are down, or at lest the sites I tried to pull up.

Maybe he stayed on vaction to long and is now out of business?

And there is at least one broken link on your site, "Call now Skype" :-)

[scanmonkey]

kgun,

I think you are missing the point. Tim Mattews continues to have a cavalier attitude concerning this matter.

Its not about bashing Tim Matthews or disparaging his sites. Pointing out flaws on other forum members sites is not going to contribute in a positive manner.

As I understand it
#1 incrediblehelp posted a thread that "Someone finally copied [his] website!"
#2 Tim Mattews posted that he is in control of the domain.
#3 Tim Mattews continues to have a cavalier attitude concerning this matter.

Originally Posted by timmathews.com

Yes, comtent was copied (not by me, but hell, when someone starts slagging me off, why would I want to help and remove it?).

Originally Posted by timmathews.com

I am finished posting in this thread, and will no longer read it.

That's probably your best move. Just don't continue in a cavalier manner.

[kgun]

My personal opinion.

timmathews.com solved a problem for incrediblehelp by buying the site. We do not live in a perfect world (how is it?) and it is easy to critisize him that he was too late to delete the site / content.

There are three types of people:
1. People that lead the way and do something.
2. People that follow behind and critisize.
3. Ignorant people.

The third catergory may be the worst.

[incrediblehelp]

kgun I am happy that Tim took content off the website. It didnt need to come down, content just shouldnt be copied.

Now the way it was handled was obviously very poor, but I am happy that it is over. As you have said far worse things are out there.