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Old 10-03-2005, 01:46 PM
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Default Are Google's Spiders Getting Duped?

Google is reported to have experimented with an algorithmic tweak creating a more aggressive duplicate content filter, much to the chagrin of webmasters who operate in-depth and content-rich websites. The fear is that not only is duplicate content being penalized across sites, but also within sites.


Many feel Google’s revamped spiders are unable to discern true duplicate content from highly detailed subject matter on subsequent related pages within one website, and thereby inadvertently penalize legitimate websites by dropping those pages from search results.

As voiced in this thread at WebMasterWorld and echoed by a string of other webmasters who have noticed a steady decline in SERP placement over the past year, the so-called Google “miscalculation” has caused some support pages to be dropped altogether.

For example, a site provides information on an array of related products that fall under the same larger category. Within that category, there are various types of similar (but not the same) products, each product with its own unique factors. Webmasters are becoming increasingly concerned that Google is tagging those subsequent information pages as duplicate content.

“Caveman” provides the hypothetical example:

“We help a client with a scientific site about insects…There are many types of bees. And then there are regional differences in those types of bees, and different kinds of bees within each type and regional variation(worker, queen, etc).

Now, if you research bees, and want to search on a certain type of bee - and in particular a worker bee from the species that does its work in a certain region of the world, then you'd like to find the page on that specific bee. Well, you used to be able to find that page, near the top of the SERP's, when searching for it. Then in mid Dec, you could find it, but only somewhere in the lower part of the top 20 results.

Now, G is not showing any pages on bees from that site.”

Caveman intimates the problem persists (and perhaps worsens) over the course of the next 10 months.

Four pages worth of responses later including a range of examples and theories reveals that little is known as to why this is occurring, or if indeed it is occurring exactly in the way Caveman describes.

Pontifex plays devil’s advocate with this explanation:

“If you have some 'bees', which have (eg) 200 words of information and only 15 words (color, function, region) differently, your 3 subpages per bee are highly redundant and your site might be not structured well.

Means: your previous top position in Google was undeserved, because you have highly redundant pages around 1 topic, which could be on 1 page, not 4. The 3 pages around that one topic (long tail, as you said) gave 3 backlinks to the main page, I presume. That boosted the main page up - artificially though.

From what you describe, I am even more sure, that the dupe filter especially applies to dupe pages interlinking, fighting the effect, that people try to spin off more pages from one content source, creating 'on-site linkfarms'."

Other explanations tinker with the idea that websites with a large number of pages are becoming targets as well, as sites with only a few pages don't seem to be affected.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default There are serious implications here

what about millions of people sharing content through RSS Feeds, content which is more or less the same.

It is just the start, if you look around, you will find that most of the websites on a particular subject will have atleast a few pages which will look the same, sound the same or saying the same things in different words.

Just like most online stores, have same description for a number of their products, just the material / cloth and sizes are different.

And most of these stores will have the same product descriptions.

There is good news only for content writers. Because they will get more business now with the necessity of having unique content on your website.

Then there could be countless people, who are stealing / borrowing content from your websites.

So they will also be punished with no mistake of their own, other then having good content on their websites which will tempt people to copy / paste and save.
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