I had this idea

[Deliguy]

My days of spamming search engines are long over, but I can't help but have ideas. I had this one today that made me particularly curious. However I am too much of a woosie to try it on any of my sites.

What if you had a site with lets say a blue background. Then you create a two cell table. One cell you fill with an completely blue image and tag it to be height=100% and width=100%. Then you write a paragraph or so on the other cell, fill it with keywords in a natural flow of genuine content, but obviously nothing you would want your visitors to read. Then with style sheeting move the blue image cell to an absolute value over the top of the text cell.

I got it to work on a test page and it actually worked very nicely. Not only couldn't you tell the text was there, but you could make it compact and put it above your true content. The obvious advantage of this over ghosting(or cloaking pages), is that this can be done with static html pages without the need for scripts. From what I understand about search engines I see no way they can determine that an absolute position of a cell would be over any content.

I in no way endorse spamming the engines; infact I think we would all have to work a lot less hard with a lot more success if there weren't a history of doing it. So please don't try this I was just curious to see if anyone had any truths they could lay my way that would let me know this wouldn't work.

[Deliguy]

I also had this other idea once that didn't end up working but I think you guys might find it neat.
I setup a domain on an ip I don't use for hosting any other pages. Then I setup the server to read a cgi script as the static main page. The page was filled with content related to a random topic. Then at the bottom the script would read the referal(if no referal then it would pull from a master list). Then it would search overture for keywords and phrases like it. Then it would rewrite the http.conf and dns config for 10 subdomains with those phrases in them, and content generated from those keywords. Then restart the dns and post the 10 links at the bottom. IE. http://greatwords.domain.com. Whenever the spider would crawl those pages the script would do the same thing again but with ten phrases found from that keyphrase. In other words it would go on forever, eventually spanning just about every topic on the internet.

This obviously didn't work very well, my site got crawled a lot but never ranked for anything, infact during an update Google hit that site 70,000 times in one day trying to grab it all, but only ended up indexing a couple of the sub domains.

Either way it was a fun experiment that tought me that the people who design search engines are obviously smarter than I.

[thebloke]

Originally Posted by Deliguy

My days of spamming search engines are long over, but I can't help but have ideas. I had this one today that made me particularly curious. However I am too much of a woosie to try it on any of my sites.

What if you had a site with lets say a blue background. Then you create a two cell table. One cell you fill with an completely blue image and tag it to be height=100% and width=100%. Then you write a paragraph or so on the other cell, fill it with keywords in a natural flow of genuine content, but obviously nothing you would want your visitors to read. Then with style sheeting move the blue image cell to an absolute value over the top of the text cell.

I got it to work on a test page and it actually worked very nicely. Not only couldn't you tell the text was there, but you could make it compact and put it above your true content. The obvious advantage of this over ghosting(or cloaking pages), is that this can be done with static html pages without the need for scripts. From what I understand about search engines I see no way they can determine that an absolute position of a cell would be over any content.

I in no way endorse spamming the engines; infact I think we would all have to work a lot less hard with a lot more success if there weren't a history of doing it. So please don't try this I was just curious to see if anyone had any truths they could lay my way that would let me know this wouldn't work.

Greeneagle wrote a post on css spamming which is kinda the route you're going down.

Read it.

http://www.mountaineagleweb.com/Mark...%20Control.htm

[aaron2005]

Spammers!