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Old 08-24-2005, 10:04 PM
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Hi Everyone ,
I am new to this forum. I look forward to seeing your posts as well as hearing from you. Can I please ask you SEO experts a question? Any information that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Here is my question -

I would like to ask you a question in regards to article distribution and search engines etc. I have read on many SEO forums that Google is removing web pages and entire web sites that have duplicate content.(different domains but same content).

My question is this. I have seen many article directories( http://www.goarticles.com/ )out there where you can write an article including a link as the author back to your site for people to use as free content for their site. There is also a product on the market known as Article Announcer created by Jason Potash. Does anyone know if using his system will make the engines happy when it comes to article content?

I have also read in the forums as well that when people use your articles this sends a link back to your site. I understand search engines love this.(link popularity)

However, My question is this - If you create an article and distribute to hundreds or thousands of websites for content usage - Would this tell Google there are hundreds of websites using the very same article content and and cause for your site and others to be shut down due to duplicate content?



Can you please explain this? Any info that you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I look very forward to hearing from you.

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Old 08-24-2005, 10:24 PM
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No, google's not stupid, they know that some content is going to be shared across sites, however that content should usually be contained in different coding, due to different site design etc. So, no you will not be hurt by distributing your articles to many sites in exchange for links. I recently wrote an article on article writing and submission, 'Smart Articles' it's featured on www.WebDesignArticles.info i believe. If you are considering going down the article writing route you may want to check it out.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:28 PM
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Thanks Jkomp!

I read the article that you recently wrote - Great Article.

Can you explain this more?
however that content should usually be contained in different coding, due to different site design etc.

What would happen if I submitted my article in Microsoft Word - would this make a difference? Would the coding be the same if everyone used my Word Doc?

Any further info that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

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From my experience almost every articler site similar to goarticles.com doesnt take a file upload but a submitted plain text form (html sometimes).

So I think JKomp meant that these sites would always be 20-40-60% unique even if they contained your same article, due to tags, ads, navigation, footers and such.

The inbound links should be your only concern, and using good variation and synonyms throught the well written body. May as well make the content uality as high and varying as possible if you are basically designing your own IBL.

The fact that 50-100-500 similar pages all link to you wont matter or be your concern (that I have ever seen)

The more important fcats will be that each site is different in domain wide content and theme, and every site is from a wide variation of IP class. This will add up to high quality links.

The second nice side effect is that many of these publishing sites may be strong trusted domains, and your article will get a very high ranking that you would have to wait months to get yourself.

Lastly, your concern about the similar pages linking to you should not be an issue, as they link to you.....not you to them. So this is not variable you control or should be levied against your site.

This rides on the assumption that they cant penalize you for something like that, or you could submit all your competition.

Nice article Jkomp.
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Also look at it another way, I have been writing and submitting articles for years and it has done nothing but help my site.
Glad u liked the article, i hope it was of some use.
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jmorris,

It's probably a good idea, that if you are going to carry articles on your Site, you place them there first and make sure they are spidered before realese to syndicated sources.

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very good point Ken, you want to get the credit for your original content out of the SEs before you go and trade it in for links. It also gives the SEs a way of knowing where the content originated.
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Hi Ken,

I have Jason Potash's Article Announcer product and
he specifies in his training guide that posting an article to an article bank with a resource box that points back to your homepage that has the exact same article on that site can be considered mirroring, and
search engines, particularly Google may penalize you for that.

Jason suggests placing the article on a seperate domain hosted on a different webhost than the site that all your article directories are on.

I guess I can see placing the articles on a different domain but a different webhost seems a bit
extreme.

Any thoughts or comments on that?

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homenotion,

I have also read several good articles saying there is no problem there. There are many good articles written trying to debunk some of these linking myths out there now.

I am not familiar with the announcer product, the need for it, Jason Potash or what he presents to sell his products. All I do is:
Place them on my Site first and then release into Syndicated sources.

I have a handful of articles on my Marketing Page that I handled that way without problem.

I also provide a nice blurb about all of my clients and crosslink us back and forth - never a problem.

There are still a lot of linking myths. Many times effect is generated by more specific causes than the masses attempt to generalize.

I also trade links with a competitor (both high ranking pages, PR 4s and 5s), carry his articles etc. Never had a problem.

Everyone's experience with SE practices seem to be different for various types of websites. More highly spammed topics seem to have a great deal more difficulty these days.

I certainly wouldn't believe that the number of times a test article would be picked up would hurt though. I am just conveying my experience and what I have gleaned from other knowledgeable sources though.

I have 3400 IBLs in Yahoo, If I linked to some of the scraper sites, faux directories etc that link to me every day, I might get in trouble, because there is no trust factor there.

I have found that most of the Sites that pick up links to my articles have a fairly good trust factor established already - I believe that is where his theory falls down there.

OBLs seem to weigh in for trust factor while IBLs tend to weigh in for PageRank.

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