Help with a listing problem - Site won't list anywhere

murdockme · #1 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:05 PM

Hi Folks. Love all the info here, so am hoping someone can guide me with some information. I began an optimization venture on a website some 8 months ago. I have tried virtually everything outside of PPC to get this site to show up and it will not list on any of 200 search engines for anything more than a single link. Check out google by doing site:www.myhousequick.com and you'll see what I mean.

Links to the site, blog, submissions both manual and automatic. rss feeds, google sitemaps, etc. nothing. keyword revisions, using wordtracker to source keywords, nothing. wrote articles about it, did press releases...nothing. I have more than 50 sites that list just fine, this one is flipping me the bird.

Anyone got any suggestions? Please let me know.

Best,

Michael Murdock

bhartzer · #2 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:09 PM

Your site requires cookies in order to be viewed. Search engine spiders do not accept cookies. So, you will need to turn off the cookie requirement in order to get your site indexed.

cbp · #3 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:15 PM

Welcome to WPW

You are only 'partially indexed' in Google. There only 8 links to the site - several of which are from PR0 pages or are not indexed in Google. You have a problem with trying to spam the search engins - in a matter of seconds I found 2 other copies of your site with different URL's (why did you not mention that in your message?)

Suggest to dump the duplicate sites and get a lot more links to your site

CBP

cbp · #4 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:22 PM

I have now found more duplicates of the site - is there really 19 of them !!!!

CBP

bhartzer · #5 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:31 PM

cbp is right, I didn't check for duplicate sites. Pick one main domain name and redirect all the other ones using a 301 Permanent Redirect to that main domain.

murdockme · #6 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:32 PM

I was not aware of all of the duplicate sites you guys are seeing. I will suggest the 301 redirect. Appreciate the assist.

cbp · #7 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:44 PM

One of the duplicates has ben listed in DMOZ since May 2003 ---- that might have a lot to do with it.

CBP

murdockme · #8 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:47 PM

and i don't suppose anyone has a remedy or suggestion for getting a dmoz listing pulled do they?

cbp · #9 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 06:51 PM

Set up a 301 rediret from the domain that is in DMOZ to the domain you want, then go to DMOZ catgeory and use the update URL to request the change to the URL you want (the 301 has to be in place first)

CBP

cspelts · #10 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by murdockme

and i don't suppose anyone has a remedy or suggestion for getting a dmoz listing pulled do they?

Just wanted to point out that I never thought I'd read those words on this board! cbp gave you good advice on how to handle the update - which is much better than losing the DMOZ listing completely.

murdockme · #11 (**permalink**) 07-06-2005, 10:53 AM

yes, he did give great advice, and that was taken and passed on. before your comment. Believe me, I'd rather save a position by updating rather than removing it completely.

Thanks guys. I won't forget this help.

Mike

cspelts · #12 (**permalink**) 07-06-2005, 05:49 PM

I was just poking fun murdockme. Your choice of words made it hard to resist!

murdockme · #13 (**permalink**) 07-06-2005, 06:21 PM

anyone know why aliasing domains internally would cause problems. i talk to the webguy at that site, he tells me he has all of his dns done internally correctly, and he's not doing domain forwarding at the registrar end of things, which is where I would be doing it from to save some trouble/steps.

any thoughts?

cbp · #14 (**permalink**) 07-06-2005, 08:19 PM

If the URL in the address bar does not change, Google (and I assume other SE's) sees them all as seperate duplicates of the same site - the Google guidelines say 301 redirect. Google does not want many copies of the same site in its index,so drops them. Usually it will keep the one it finds first and dumps the rest (but not always)

CBP

wrmineo · #15 (**permalink**) 07-06-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cbp

If the URL in the address bar does not change, Google (and I assume other SE's) sees them all as seperate duplicates of the same site - the Google guidelines say 301 redirect. Google does not want many copies of the same site in its index,so drops them. Usually it will keep the one it finds first and dumps the rest (but not always)

CBP

Additionally, it is a good formula for getting the whole lot banned IMO; or just as bad, a free ticket to the last pages of SERP...

Quote:

Quality Guidelines - Specific recommendations:

Avoid hidden text or hidden links.
Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.
Don't send automated queries to Google.
Don't load pages with irrelevant words.
Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines, or other "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
These quality guidelines cover the most common forms of deceptive or manipulative behavior, but Google may respond negatively to other misleading practices not listed here (e.g. tricking users by registering misspellings of well-known websites). It's not safe to assume that just because a specific deceptive technique isn't included on this page, Google approves of it. Webmasters who spend their energies upholding the spirit of the basic principles listed above will provide a much better user experience and subsequently enjoy better ranking than those who spend their time looking for loopholes they can exploit.