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Old 05-14-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Do SE's resolve IP's?

If we share one ip address for many sites from our server but each site has a registered Domain name do the servers base rankings off of domain names or do they take the ip address of the domain into consideration?

I would think that SE's do not care about the IP address since you could consider it discrimination to enforce having an original IP address per domain name.

In a project we are currently working on we are considering giving each specific page a seperate domain name so that we can advertise for each page and have them share the PR off of one another as they grow with a link map within each page at the bottom.

Is this a good idea?

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You are correct about the ip address. Search engines mainly use it for geo-targetting.

However, I wouldn't advise you to use a separate domain for each of your web pages. This is like a doorway page. In addition, you will actually be pr splitting and doing more harm than good.

Here's why (not the best example, but gives you an idea)
Let's say you have maindomain.com and 2 of your pages are domain1.com and domain2.com
If, hypothetically, it takes 100 incoming links to get a pr5, you would need 100 links to each of those 3 domains to get a pr5 on each one.
However, if you channelled all 300 links to the maindomain.com then you might actually get a pr6, or pr7. That pr would end up filtering down to your sub-pages anyway, most likely giving them a pr5 or pr6 anyway.

That said, don't concentrate so much on pr. pr is nothing more than a visual indicator .
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Old 05-16-2005, 10:46 AM
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Default Not quite sure..

What exactly is geo-targetting?

So are you saying that I would get penalized for having seperate domains?

The content on each of the pages would be unique in the way that each pages content would be driven by the unique location of the pages city ie. mycityslisthouston woud have Houston specific content.

We want each city to have an individual presence. Furthermore, I am hoping to be able to submit all of the pages to directory services etc.

I am going on the assumption that pages listed in many (100+) directories will have the most success. Furthermore, if I can get all of my unique city pages linking to one another they would share the page rank of the site listing to it no?

I guess all I need to know is whether or not my sites will be penalized by search engines if I use seperate domain names.

Thanks for your answer and I appreciate you taking the time to lend a hand to a newbie :)

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geo targetting is all about location.
If you are in a country outside the US, then this is important to you.
Basically search engines look at the location of your ip address, to determine where you are located (country-wise)

Excessive interlinking between domain names is bad news and if you do it, you may be hard-pressed to see the light-of-day in Google's results.

You're much better off doing us.com/texas/dallas.htm
rather than us.com texas.com and dallas.com
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Old 05-16-2005, 11:21 AM
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Cyanide is right about excessive interlinking. Even Yahoo has posted a warning about it on their guidelines page:

What Yahoo considers unwanted: "Excessively cross-linking sites to inflate a site's apparent popularity"

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearc...etions-05.html

One of the ways that related sites are identified is through the IP address. If the IP's C-class is the same (the first three groups of numbers) it's a giveaway that the sites are probably on the same server.
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did you literally mean EVERY page or quite a few of your pages? Would there be some pages without a separate domain? The reason I ask is that often there is a need for landing pages. Can you explain more about why you feel you need to do this?
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Default I worry about I.P. banning

I'm not sure how the SE's treat it, but I do try to watch what my customers are doing since most of them use a common I.P..

I know that when I block someone, I block the entire I.P. I have no reason to believe the SE's are any different.
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Just the main pages

What I am thinking of doing is having a landing page (I like that term used above) for the major products that the site offers.

IE www.mclusedcars.com and that section would be used for used cars only. Then I would have another page for personal ads www.mclpersonalads.com.

The content in each area although using the same templates would be unique to that specific product or service.

Nothing wrong with that right?

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Default Since it really is unique content...

Since the content is unique, that'd be fine. However, keep in mind that by having multiple domains, you'll need multiple linking campaigns. It'd be much easier to do 1 linking campaign and just use directories such as mclclassifieds.com/used-cars/ and mclclassifieds.com/personal-ads/

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I'm hoping that excessively crosslinking doesn't include footer links to company pages? That's somthing I almost rely on when building sites to increase my own design and management website's prominence.

Also i've been looking at the traffic and search engine hits to my sites and it seems as though the server / IP address does actually make quite a difference.

Following on from this, i have a US concert ticket site that is currently being hosted in Europe - can anyone recommend a decent US host service? I'll be looking to transfer 2 or 3 of my domains across.
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Default I'm with Brian

Although there isn't anything per say wrong with that you are better off using a discriptive page name (Second-landing-page.html).

Also remember that SE's rate PAGES not SITES so there is no advantage in registering a different domain name if it is relevant to the same keyword THEME of the domain.
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