How to get listed in DMOZ, the easy way.

[gworld]

It has been a lot of discussion regarding DMOZ that I do not want get in to, in this posting; but it seems that a lot of web site can not get listed in DMOZ. I personaly don't care about DMOZ listing and my posting so far has been in opposition to the way DMOZ does business but if you like to have a listing in DMOz and you think it is beneficial for you, this is how you can do it in less than couple of days.

1-There are free programs that can download, all the listings in DMOZ category, download it and run it through other free programs that check for availiablity of a domain name. When you find one, go and register it. You can find these programs through search on Google.

2-You can also put a posting in domain seller web sites, that you are looking for DMOZ listed domains, so people can contact you.

DMOZ is full of dead domains, so both method should work fine.

3-Make 1 page with 2 frames, the height of top frame should be 1 pixel, so it can not be seen, then in bottom frame open your own web site. You should optimize this page for your own key words also.

4-Install this page as index page for the DMOZ listed domains that you have bought.

That's all folks, your contant is shown in DMOZ directory listing.

How easy is this to do? I started yesterday and I already have 4 DMOZ listed web sites, 2 in shopping, 1 finance, 1 art. The cost? less than $200.

[wednesday]

And you've tested this?

[Duncan Pollock]

No, it isn't going to work for two reasons.
1. It's going to take a great deal of coincidence for the present DMOZ entry (i.e. name and description of site, and never mind the category) to match the one that applies to your site.
2. The ongoing editing checks and revisions that DMOZ editors are encouraged to carry out will eventually -- and inevitably -- catch that YOU are not IT and the entry is then far, far more likely to be deleted than updated to what your site represents. There's perhaps going to be a time lag before this happens, but the replacement site is not going to last.
With all due respect to gworld, the idea is a black hat one. Anyone who adopts it is going to end up the worse for his suggestion.

Duncan

[Maloney]

Because of my recent liplock promise to myself in all things DMOZ on this forum, I won't comment too much. lol

But I will say I know people are doing this on both the Yahoo directory and DMOZ. Whether it has *long term* benefits or not - I have no idea.

But the buying up of expired domains listed in both DMOZ and Yahoo directories and then using them is definitely something that's being done. And you'll find loads of expired domains btw, I did when I was doing some research for a project. (I didn't buy them though btw).

Both directories need to do a better job maintaining their listings.

[gworld]

Originally Posted by .martin

And you've tested this?

Yes, I bought 4 domains yesterday, made the domains, installed the pages on my server and changed the name server to point to my server. So today I am the owner of 4 DMOZ listed web site.

Originally Posted by Duncan Pollock

1. It's going to take a great deal of coincidence for the present DMOZ entry (i.e. name and description of site, and never mind the category) to match the one that applies to your site.
2. The ongoing editing checks and revisions that DMOZ editors are encouraged to carry out will eventually -- and inevitably -- catch that YOU are not IT and the entry is then far, far more likely to be deleted than updated to what your site represents. There's perhaps going to be a time lag before this happens, but the replacement site is not going to last.

To answer your first point, nobody is actually using the DMOZ for search and the importance of such listing as DMOZ editors tell us, is the effect it has on Google and the number of link back it generates. So as long as you are roughly in your category, is more than enough. I bought 4 yesterday and I already been offered 3 more today.

About your second point, all DMOZ editors always mention that the sites are not listed because editors are so busy. In fact many category has not been updated for years or do not have an editor at all, so the chance of they finding out is almost zero. In a worst case, let's say they found out after couple of years, what have you lost? $50-$60 dollar, take it as marketing cost, forget about that domain and buy new one which is listed in DMOZ.

FAQ:

Is this redirect?
NO, the domain is hosted, your original site contant is shown in frame.

Is this duplicate site?
NO, you are not copying the same content in both domains, you are just showing the content of your original domain.

What happens if the domain links in DMOZ links to internal page and not to the index page?
Make a custom 404 page that redirects all not found page to the index page of domain.

I suppose every body knows how to do the index page for this site but if you need the code, just post here and I will post it.

[freehits]

perhaps you can address what i found is the case.
I found a few DMOZ listed recent deletes after checking about 1000 recent deletes that fit my desired categories.

I have 3 here that show as DMOZ listed in the software I use.

If I search for the domain name on DMOZ, it shows up as listed. But if I click the category it says it's located in ...its not there.

Appears to be lingering in the search feature, but is deleted from the actually listing page.

It has the appearence of automated deleting going on, and a delay for the search function to realize it is missing, thusly appearing to still be there unless you look at the actual category.

They are not in the respective category in the google directory either.

[cbp]

Back to your usual factual errors.

The domains will be delisted from DMOZ as soon as an editor detects them.

[gworld]

Originally Posted by hoptoo

perhaps you can address what i found is the case.
I found a few DMOZ listed recent deletes after checking about 1000 recent deletes that fit my desired categories.

I have 3 here that show as DMOZ listed in the software I use.

If I search for the domain name on DMOZ, it shows up as listed. But if I click the category it says it's located in ...its not there.

Appears to be lingering in the search feature, but is deleted from the actually listing page.

It has the appearence of automated deleting going on, and a delay for the search function to realize it is missing, thusly appearing to still be there unless you look at the actual category.

They are not in the respective category in the google directory either.

Obviously before registering/buying a domain, you have to actually go to DMOZ and check that site is still listed. When you get a big list of domains, it can take some time.

If you don't want to spend the time, post a wanted ad for DMOZ listed domains, you will save some time but you have to pay between $40-$100 or more for a domain that you know is there, instead of $9 domain regsiteration fee. All my 4 domains are working listing in DMOZ ( bought 3 for $50/each and 1 for $40) and so are the 3 domain I have been offered today.

Another advantage of buying such domains is that most likely these domains are already listed in Google and other search engine too.

You can find the domain that you are considering with this url:

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/searc...ted-domain.com

[freehits]

Originally Posted by gworld

Obviously before registering/buying a domain, you have to actually go to DMOZ and check that site is still listed. When you get a big list of domains, it can take some time.

I agree it to be obvious, I was only asking if you checked them with the search feature as I had during the time I tested this theory.

I was pointing out that the 'DMOZ search function' will show listings that are not really there anymore.

Since this has the markings of an automated removal of some sort, having seen the same "there for search but not really there" for more than 1 domain I found.

I will assume from your reply that you found them by search, and found them to be actually hard listed still in their category.

I will continue to see how this works out, as well as past startegy which is to try to email webmasters of redemption period domains that fit my needs.

[cbp]

I was pointing out that the 'DMOZ search function' will show listings that are not really there anymore.

The DMOZ search function is geared to finding categories associated with keywords and not listed sites. It is a Directory, not a Search engine.

CBP

[freehits]

It does find the sites fine, but it must not feed off live listings, since they do not appear in the category the search shows it in.

This is a recently dropped domain so it may have been a recent delete that is still showing when searched

search:
marylandrealestatetoday

I find marylandrealestatetoday.com

but it is not in the category anymore. So is suppose i am wondering if there is a delay in the search function with a recently deleted domain.

[cbp]

Search is not updated as frequently as the database.
Search is very poor at finding specific URL's (its not a search engine)

CBP

[freehits]

Originally Posted by cbp

Search is not updated as frequently as the database.

This seems to explain what I am seeing.

[gworld]

Some one asked me how the code for index.html look like, so here it is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<base="mainFrame">
<title>DMOZLISTEDDOMAIN.com</title>
<meta name="TITLE" content="This is title of my site.">
<meta name="DESCRIPTION" content="blah-blah-blah this is my site">
<meta name="KEYWORDS" content="blah1, blah2, blah3,some other blah ">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<frameset rows="1,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame src=" " name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize title="topFrame" >
<frame src="https://www.my-own-domain-that-is-not-DMOZ-listed.com " name="mainFrame" title="mainFrame">
</frameset>
<noframes><body>
Your browser does not support frames, plus all other blah-blah-blah that is good contant for search engine optimization.
Without Frame site
</body></noframes>
</html>

[wrmineo]

G:

Your thought process and methodology are well intended, but about as likely to happen twice as hitting the lottery twice back to back. I congratulate you on this victory, though it may be short-lived, but I don't think you'll find it easily reproduceable in generous quantities or with successful longevity.

The variables here are about as tough to calculate as Pascal's "wager". In my meaningless opinion, these would include:

1. Finding the expired domain genre availablity specific to the content I'll push.

2. Hope I don't get dropped and subsequently FLAGGED from DMOZ.

Finally, why not take the time to build some content relevant pages that employ professionalism, or at least integrity, versus scheming, and go the safer path, albeit a long-await one sometimes.

It seems like a lot of effort either way; nonetheless, I'll wager on the second to survive through time.

Good luck down this path ~ happy surfing!