Doing good on Google. Not so good with Y! and MSN. Why ?

[effisk]

Hi everyone,

I have just computed my statistics for the last month:

REFERER
#Hits
#cookie
#session
#IP

Google
58 631
27 888
32 397
21 159

MSN
508
313
328
302

Yahoo
1 662
1 112
1 211
1 017

No referer
/
27 208
36 188
12 820

Now if I look at the number of pages crawled by the bots:

Google 30 284
Yahoo / Inktomi 15 785
MSN 13 583
WiseNut 4 564
ICGN 695
Ask Jeeves/Teoma 82
Naver 21

Why are my results so poor with Yahoo and MSN ?
My website is B2B, maybe google is used by professionals more than MSN and Y! (which are probably more used for personal searches), but this can't be the only reason, the gap is too large between Y! and Google. So I guess I don't rank well on Y! and MSN, and again, why? Some pages are crawled by Y! and MSN, but not indexed...

Does anyone have an idea?

[MeanSEO]

My Yahoo and MSN numbers are throughthe roof and my google is still not good.

My guess is the following:

Not doing well on google: A have very few inbound links and those few have crap PR.

Doing well on Yahoo and MSN. Great, relevant, fresh text.

Someone tell me if I am right or wrong!

[effisk]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Not doing well on google: A have very few inbound links and those few have crap PR.

I have a reasonable number of inbound links. Their PR range from 1 to 6 (maybe 7).

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Doing well on Yahoo and MSN. Great, relevant, fresh text.

I do have great (actually unique in my domain of activity) relevant (extremely specific) and fresh (daily news) content.

There must be another reason that I haven't figured out yet.

I also use cloaking for a few pages (don't tell me it's bad, I know the issues and I do it for good reasons). These pages are being crawled by all spiders, but only google indexes all these pages. Yahoo and MSN only index part of them.

[MeanSEO]

How many inbound links?

Please explain why you feel you MUST cloak...

Can you post a link so we can look?

[cspelts]

Originally Posted by effisk

I also use cloaking for a few pages (don't tell me it's bad, I know the issues and I do it for good reasons).

I didn't know there were any good reasons to use cloaking - I’m not being disingenuous – I’d really like to hear why?

[effisk]

Originally Posted by cspelts

I didn't know there were any good reasons to use cloaking - I’m not being disingenuous – I’d really like to hear why?

hehe, I was sure someone would quote that line. Maybe I shouldn't have written it since it isn't the subject of the topic...

ok
Part of the website (I'd say 30%) is registered members only (these are the cloacked pages). Registration is free. These 30% are stuffed with highly specific and technical content. I think people looking for such content would rather have an answer to their questions (and have to fill a registration form) than end up with no answer. I am the only one to provide online information in my field.
Why should they register? Well I just need to know who's interested in the information I provide to make sure my content matches the visitors' needs.
So basically Google can see the registered only pages so they are properly indexed. I am not trying to fool anybody by overoptimizing my pages with non relevant content.

I don't send my members any spam, I don't sell their email addresses.

[cspelts]

That makes good sense. Sorry to cause the topic to wander, but I couldn't help but be curious!

[RadarCat]

Hi, Effisk,

I can't help but wonder if Google is better than Yahoo or MSN at crawling and indexing web pages coded in French?

After all, most Americans have little opportunity to speak French unless they go to Quebec or France.

[effisk]

Originally Posted by RadarCat

Hi, Effisk,

I can't help but wonder if Google is better than Yahoo or MSN at crawling and indexing web pages coded in French?

My website is in good ole American English.

To reassure you, I'm not the writer ;)