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Old 01-06-2005, 11:44 AM
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I hav several choices of Stats packages on my host server, I prefer AWStats, but occasionally I check Analog Stats too, and the numbers vary greatly?! I'll never know why....I think it is something to do with AWStats 'hides' vistor count of things like spiders indexing my pages, but Analog counts that in the visitor count...so AWstats is more honestly accurate if I want to know about actual hot body users count only (and not artifically inflate my hit # for advertisers- I hate it when people do that). Any way, my question is, does anyone know why Analog would show these referrals:
http://www.google.com/search?q=pin-m...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
72: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ibrator+shaker
66: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...+of+dump+truck
60: http://www.google.com/search?q=railc...8&start=0&sa=N
52: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=mold+vibrator
51: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&...bratory+table+
42: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...rators&spell=1
42: http://www.google.com/search?q=vibra...&start=10&sa=N
36: http://www.google.com/search?q=railc...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
36: http://www.google.com/search?q=vibra...&start=10&sa=N
36: http://www.google.com/search?q=rotar...&start=10&sa=N
34: http://www.google.com/search?hl=lv&i...l%E7%F0ana&lr=
34: http://www.google.com/search?q=VIBRA...&start=10&sa=N
34: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...SHAKER&spell=1
33: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...pper+vibrators
32: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...olding&spell=1
32: http://www.google.com/search?q=rail+...8&start=0&sa=N
32: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search
32: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...railcar+shaker
30: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...pper+rail+cars
26: http://www.google.com/search?q=small...&start=60&sa=N
26: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...OR+tables+grid
25: http://www.google.com/search?q=linea...&start=10&sa=N
25: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...&q=quick+clamp
24: http://www.google.com/search?q="car+hopper"&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
24: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...lcar+vibrators
23: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...-1&q=JV176-380
23: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
23: http://www.google.com/search?q=Lift+...&start=10&sa=N
22: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...tor+for+cement
22: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search
22: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...tor+for+hopper
20: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
20: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...8&q=Bin+hopper
20: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ilcar+vibrator
18: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...O+address+list
18: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...eumatic+rapper
18: http://www.google.com/search?q=cemen...&start=10&sa=N
18: http://www.google.com/search?q=vibra...&start=20&sa=N
18: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ment+vibrators
18: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ibrator+feeder
18: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ker+heavy+duty
17: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...able+vibrators
17: http://www.google.com/search?q=air+o...&start=30&sa=N
17: http://www.google.com/search?q=hoppe...&start=20&sa=N
17: http://www.google.com/search?q=vibra...&start=10&sa=N
16: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
16: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q="bin+vibrator"+hopper
16: http://www.google.com/search?q=vibra...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
16: http://www.google.com/search?q=elect...start=110&sa=N
16: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...+form+vibrator
16: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...&q=Bin+mapping
16: http://www.google.com/search?q=conti...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
16: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...lastic+hoppers
16: http://www.google.com/search?q=plast...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
16: http://www.google.com/search?q=conti...&start=10&sa=N
15: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=form+vibrator
15: http://www.google.com/search?q=www+j...&start=80&sa=N
15: http://www.google.com/search?q=impac...&start=10&sa=N
15: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search
14: http://www.google.com/search?q="SHAKE+TABLES"&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N
14: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search
14: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...&q=QUICK+CLAMP
14: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...opper+vibrator
14: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...8&q=navco+bh-5
13: http://www.google.com/search?q=plast...&start=20&sa=N
13: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search
12: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
11: http://www.google.com/search?q=lift+...&start=10&sa=N
11: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...+size+vibrator
11: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=UTF-8&q=jr206
10: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...-detergent+oil
10: http://www.google.com/search?q=compu...&start=10&sa=N
10: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...r+air+vibrator
10: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...vco&lr=lang_en
10: http://www.google.com/search?q=small...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


BUT - AWstats, the other Stats program, does NOT list these keywords (read in the URLs above) in the "Search Keyphrases" table?!

I never noticed this phenomenon before, but now will pay closer attention to both stats, because I use that keyword list to help me find Adwords keywords to bid on....seems I was missing alot! Why would one stats service not report these? AWstats supposedly reports every last keyword that people found my site with, but Analog Stats only shows the top 30 - and thats one reason I use AWstats instead....any ideas anyone? PLEASE? Any of you have an opinion on THE BEST server stats package out there that you feel is 100% accurate reporting?

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Old 01-06-2005, 11:48 AM
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Tiffany, are these perhaps directed at sites you link to from your reciprocal programme? They look familiar to me from looking at your site. I am too lazy to go back now for another look, maybe later!
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:29 PM
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tiff, try www.statcounter.com just to compare, it's free.
Good to see pages full of Vibrators that won't get banished by Google, or would they pick up on a single word and give a different meaning?
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:37 PM
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We sometimes get banished if using Safe Search feature, and we do get spam from 'other' vibrator sites on our SERPs....I have tried successfully to get Google to get rid of those pages, there are many less now than just a few months ago, yay!

As for my stats, I just realized that the URLs is a list of "Failed Referrers" actually - waht does that mean? I mean they are obviously links from Google.
But does tha tmena the "page cannot be found" was what the user saw? I checked a few - doing the same search - and the pages listed on the SERPS do exist, and opened fine for me.....

now what are you thought!?
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:40 PM
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- fowler - try clicking the links, they are actual searches on google that people performed - so that is the URL they came to my site from - atleast thats how I read it - if you click the link, you will go to the same results they saw, and if you click my links there, you get a page on my site...
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:15 PM
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I have never tried either package, so I am hardly qualified to answer sensibly. Maybe the one package only lists two word or shorter phrases. Most of these seem to be longer.
I use WebLog pro at the moment, but I sometimes play with the logs in a text programme to pull them apart or search for something specific.
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We sometimes get banished if using Safe Search feature, and we do get spam from 'other' vibrator sites on our SERPs....I have tried successfully to get Google to get rid of those pages, there are many less now than just a few months ago, yay!

As for my stats, I just realized that the URLs is a list of "Failed Referrers" actually - waht does that mean? I mean they are obviously links from Google.
But does tha tmena the "page cannot be found" was what the user saw? I checked a few - doing the same search - and the pages listed on the SERPS do exist, and opened fine for me.....

now what are you thought!?
Hi, not my field, sorry, but I know who can help so I've posted it to greeneagle
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:43 AM
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It is probably that somebody decided onne of the sites were worth clicking on and tried another search without visiting the site.
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Hello tcady,

I have a client that manufactures railcar unloaders.

From what I can tell from your list above, those are actual search references by people that visited your Site. There would be no reason for your server to list them if the inquiry had not been addressed to your Site.

AwStats is a great package, I prefer it myself. They resolve the inquiries down to # of visits from each specific SE. You most likely are getting visits from a number of different GOOGLE data centers, but the stats are going to try and resolve that down to a total number of visits from Google. They also determine the keywords and phrases used in the searches and sum those for you.

If you look at the actual words used in those strings you will find that they are all relevant to your page and you will also most likely find those exact keyphrases listed in your awstats.

I am curious what you mean by:
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