keywords

[jbutton]

how does a page mentioning the keyword 'chester' three times get listed no 3 in google.
When my page mentions 'chester' 38 times in the index page and does not get listed.

see sitereportcard.com

my site www.chestertourist.com

compare to www.chester.com

james
webmaster
www.chestertourist.com

[sfowler]

I see 5300 inbound links for the other site and less than 400 for yours.

[cbp]

how does a page mentioning the keyword 'chester' three times get listed no 3 in google.
When my page mentions 'chester' 38 times in the index page and does not get listed.

Because on-page factors do not count for much in Google in comparison to off-page factors.

as sfowler said - its all about links, esp keywords in the anchor text.

CBP

[rlrouse]

When it comes to ranking well on Google, keyword density is a garnish. Links with good anchor text are the meat.

[jbutton]

OK thanks.
It looks like I have alot of link trading to do then
There appears to be a shortage of good quality destination guide who want to trade :(
any surgestions?

[Web Gazelle]

You may also have your key word in there too many times and could be looking spammy to Google. Check your key word density and make sure it is under 10%.

[jbutton]

just checked density of keyword 'chester'
and it is 8.92%

I have just reduced the size of my index page and found it has increased my ranking.

I am no 4 in altavista for 'chester tourist'.

Does download time/page size a factor in ranking ?

[Web Gazelle]

I don't know if the download time will effect you in the SERPs but download time will effect the amount of visitors that stay and wait to visit your site. Make sure while your below 10% density that your content is worded for a visitor and not a spider.

[jbutton]

I have got the hosting company to ping the server. these are the results do they look ok ?

Pinging 80.94.196.10 with 32 bytes of data:
67ms
63ms
65ms
65ms


Average = 65ms

[fctoma]

I've found the same thing. We have pages with great content, great KW placement, but a few links.... If a crappy site with "ok" KW placement is competing with you, but has more links to it, you'll lose.

Hopefully one day Google will change their methods, really sucks for the small guys out here trying to survive based on a "link-back" ranking style.

One can only hope soon...

[Web Gazelle]

Fctoma is right about the links. I recommend submitting to free directories and also looking for other relevant sites to get links from. I don't think your download time is an issue.

[greeneagle]

fctoma:

“Hopefully one day Google will change their methods…”

We may have arrived: http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=34910

Ken

[greeneagle]

There is a lot more to "keywords" than meets the eye. Let's just pretend for a moment that they are not necessary anymore in the metatags as some advocate. They still help establish focus on a logic channel for the Search Engines. What are you trying to accomplish on each page? Set up your pyramidal hierarchy with the most important keyphrases after you do your competitive analysis and let them "bleed" all over your Title and HTML Body text adcopy, if nothing else.

Remember though that customers do not buy products!, they buy percieved benifits, usually based in inane human drives.

Ken

[jbutton]

I understand now that a link to your site is like a 'vote' for it.
Because you can maniplate the content to increase your position yourself. but it is harder to manipulate other people to link to you.

But my site is not listed in the top 200 sites.
But if you look at the sites that are listed.
there is one with pictures of fungi, yha chess club.

[SEOforGoogle]

[quote] Because you can maniplate the content to increase your position yourself. but it is harder to manipulate other people to link to you. [quote]

There's no need to manipulate anything. You should create content that people want to know about. Write articles about your subject matter and get them posted throughout any PR outlet that you can.

That's a great way to have in-bound links to your site.

I know it's not as easy as a reciprocal link program, but nothing worthwhile is going to be easy.

Getting a top rank is hard to do, or else none of these forums would exist because all the webmasters would be able to do it.

[jbutton]

Does any body know what the google guideline is for the maximum number of links on a page is ?