Disappearing PR?

[jawn_tech]

Has anyone ever experienced this --- suddenly the PR on every page of your website - except the homepage - has suddenly disappeared?

That's what occured early this morning. I find this really alarming. Nothing has changed with the website itself. The link structure is the same. The PR used to be the same on every page in the whole site. Now, the only page with PR is the homepage, which has 5, but everything else is showing nothing.

On top of that, we've dropped from a comfortable 4th place on SERP's to a distant number 21 (Google).


Is this the evidence of the infamous G-penalty of some kind? The only backlinks we've strived for are search engines submissions (manual), and directories with categories of relevancy. No spamming or black hat techniques has ever been implemented. Or, have we fallen victim of the very point made by Phantom -- competitors on the SEO dark side.

Or, a bug in the system?

Scratching my head, perplexed...


(I posted this in another thread, but am rewording it here for clarification.)

(** amendment at 2:46 PM - site this was discovered on is www.bliley.com)

[turtlwaX]

I've experienced the same thing and haven't been able to figure it out.

My circumstances are quite astonishingly similar as well...no black hat techniques and only manual search engine submissions and submissions to directories with categories of relevancy.

It got me....and I would love to hear the theories on it.

turtlwaX

[jbgilbert]

jawn_tech,

Why are you doing a frameset on your URL and including another site? I'm not sure, but Google may have adjusted their algorithm and it may not like this kind of thing.

Maybe we can get some more input from others.

[braknews]

I am not saying this is the reason for what has happened here but... In the past I have noticed that the PR for my site has dropped to 0 just before a Google update. The description for my site is sometimes "lost" too at this time & Google just displays the URL.

[jawn_tech]

I failed to mention in this thread the site I discovered this on is bliley.com. (I recently edited original post)

I can understand PR vanishing from a whole site, for whatever reasons, but what seems unexplainable is part of a site's PR disappearing, which is detrimental when the pages contain all the important information of a site. In this case, all but the homepage. Why not the homepage, and why every other page.

Interesting to learn this phenomenon has occured elsewhere too. I'm baffled.

[crashingflwrgrl]

I have also experienced the same drop in PR on my inner pages.....about a month ago. My listings have stayed pretty much the same though.

The only thing I can figure is it has something to do with the way the pages are linked together. They have to be linked properly in order to "share" the PR to other pages.

The reason I figure this is because it all started the day after I added links back to my homepage from each of my product pages.

I have been going through removing each of the links I put in but it will take awhile as I have over 400 product pages.

Other than that I have no idea as to why this may be occuring...but it seems to be happening to alot of sites.

[jawn_tech]

I am determined to get to the bottom of this mystery. This just shouldn't be.

Another thing I thought of is the free site-search by FusionBot that I'm using, which is on almost every page, but it's been on there since mid July and no problems. I have a free search script for CGI as soon as I figure out how to use it (new to cgi), but theoretically the free site-search shouldn't be the problem either. Unless, if there's a robot no-follow line somewhere in their service, would the SE be able to go around it and navigate through the rest of my site?

It just doesn't make sense. This is a mystery.

Does anyone know of sites that analyze your url for links, or pagerank, or any of those helpful sites? Maybe they'll find something.

Thanks.. =)