Moving links/resource pages off domain

[northernladuk]

Lets say I have two sites, both URL's similar and not too dissimilar topic, www.bluewidgets.com is important and www.greenwidgets.com isn't.

I would like to move my links pages from www.bluewidgets.com/links to www.greenwidgets.com/bluewidgetslinks. This means that I will get a one way linking but the other sites still get traffific from bluewidgets (as link goes to greenwidgets domain where bluewidgets links are hosted). This link page is not connected with greenwigets and so may not get spidered.

I would also like to leave my existing bluewidgets link pages incase they are being spidered by the link exchanger.

My question is .... if I drop all linking to the bluewidgets link pages and but leave them on the server will they eventually drop off google and therefore bluewidgets shows no outgoing links or the fact the page is still there means it will get spidered directly so nullifying the attempt to move the links off site????????????

I know this will cheese off the guys looking to link for PR but shouldn't put off the people looking to link to my site for traffic as it will still appear seamless.

I am sure I will get a few comments saying this is a little devious but it does seem fairly common. Is it bad of me to do this or a plausible tactic??

[cbp]

Why?

CBP

[northernladuk]

Oh dear, judging by that response I have asked a pretty silly answer but in for a penny in for a pound.

I thought that by moving bluewidgets link off to the greenwidgets domain, when I swap a link for blue widgets it will go on the greenwidgets/bluewidgetslinks so that I get a one way link to bluewidgets which is a lot more valuable than a reiprocal one but still giving the linker to me a valuable on topic link for traffic....

Can I assume I am wrong here?

[Mel]

Whhy do you think a one way link is more valuable than a reciprocal link?

[northernladuk]

Gosh, what a grilling LOL...

Erm, I just thought it was as I have read about it in different forums. The ethic seemed to be if your site is good enough people will reciprocal link to you but if it's a great site people will link to you without being asked therfore google would see this as a better thing than a reciprocal link...

Also there is the people offering the three way liking thing, A-B, B-C etc etc so that each site gets a one way link so thought they did this cause the one way link is more valuable.

I am assuming this is another mistake I am making? PLease put me out of my misery... :D

[Mel]

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[Mel]

Hi N.
Sorry if you thought we were grilling you, but when someone posts something that flies in the face of commonly accepted ideas, IMO the best response is to ask why you think that, since there may or may not be very good reasons for your thinking.

We may never know exactly how much emphasis Google places on each type of link, but in my experience the simplest answer is often the best.

At present the most powerful links seem to be on topic anchor text links to your site, followed by regular links. There are those who say that outgoing links are helpful to your pages ranking, but I have yet to see any strong evidence of this. There are also those who say that reciprocal links are being discounted, that text advertisements that have been paid for are discounted, that links from links pages are not counted etc, etc, etc.

If Google were doing all the things within the algo that all the people theorizing things say they are, then everything would be discounted.

From your post it seems that you have picked up the idea that reciprocal links are somehow second class from reading in forums.

While I don't happen to believe this, I suggest that you decide for yourself. Don't believe everything you read in forums, even though for the most part the posters are trying their level best to help you. Some posters may have misconceptions, some posters seem to take the contrary view no matter what the topic is and some posters just seem to like to argue about anything. I truly wish it were different but anytime you read something take it with a grain of salt, think about it a bit and test it if you can. The more you do this the sooner you will be able to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

[northernladuk]

Good thoughts there and appreciate your comments. I got my ideas about one way linking through comments such as this from another webmaster forum...

Exchanging one way links works well among webmasters who have or control multiple sites in roughly the same categories. In fact, I think its preferable. I'm of the opinion that reciprocal linking will see less and less weight being applied by Google as the practice becomes more and more widespread.

They then go on to agree that many one way links would create a 'hub' site which is particularly useful so must be a good site as people are linking to this content....

If anyone has any theories on this I would love to hear but would like the answers to somehow help with my question if poss..

Many thanks all

[ferret77]

so basically you want to screw all your link partners by not passing back the pr they are giving you

[northernladuk]

Hmm, the plan wasn't as harsh as that as I would hope my link pages would accumulate some PR but yes I suppose it wouldn't be as useful as a PR exercise for the other sites yes but they would still get traffic from a related site which I see in the forum is more important than linking just for PR.

The idea is that yes I may loose a few link partners as the PR swap is not as good but the one way links would more than make up for that from the partners who arn't bothered about PR and just the traffic it passes..

I think reading the generally negative view towards this it isn't a good idea so will drop the idea anyway.

[ferret77]

well i think there is little no proof that one way links are better for your rankings

they might be better to get a higher pr but in the bigger scheme of things isn't rankings what you are looking for

just the fact you want to leave your present links pages up to fool your present link partners see asinine to me

if you arn't screwing them over just move pages , see how many drop your links

Thye basically entered into a agreement wiht you to trade links on your site a to their site b

now you are bascially renigging on that deal and just putting their links wherever you want

if you want one way inbound links why don't you buy them, or make a site that people link to for free

oh wait that would be much more difficult then just screwing your present links partners right?

[northernladuk]

Oh dear, hit a nerve here havn't I. No need for the sarcasm, I am just digging through the web world as most are on here and playing with ideas to find what is right and wrong. I did say I as going to drop the idea in the previous post as it seems it isn't an acceptable way to go.

if you arn't screwing them over just move pages , see how many drop your links

The reason I want to leave the pages existing pages is so that any sites that spider the existing pages won't see me dropping the links when all I am doing is moving the page. I do the same if I was changing the name of the page from say links to linksshopping. Only sensible is it not???

just the fact you want to leave your present links pages up to fool your present link partners see asinine to me

As mentioned before. I am not trying to fool them. They will still have a link in the same navigation as before. I am trying to stop spiders seeing the the link is off and them drop my link when really it has only moved page but same nav. Surely this is a sensible thing to do, not asinine?

Thye basically entered into a agreement wiht you to trade links on your site a to their site b

Are they not still getting this link from a to b whereever the links pages are?

now you are bascially renigging on that deal and just putting their links wherever you want

I am not re-jigging the deal, they still get a link from a - b in the same structure as before, just the link page has moved URL, nothign more. Navigation is still the same.

oh wait that would be much more difficult then just screwing your present links partners right?

Poor attitude. I am just asking a basic question for some advice. Some reasonable mature feedback would have sufficed and I would have arrived at the same conclusion that my idea is not acceptable without the immature sarcasm. Why not save that for the guys out there that just go ahead and do this and really do screw people over rather than us that trying to learn what is wrong and right.