Hi everyone,

I have been submitting my one site Medical Scrubs, Nursing Uniforms, Lab Coats, Accessories from MedicalScrubsRus to dmoz for over 6 months now and still not getting a listing. My other site Varicose Veins Treatment Center - Compression Stockings was listed in less than 2 months. Both were submitted in the same manner.

Anyone have a sugestion, trick, technique that might help me get listed? I resubmit every month.

Thanks,

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JBW
www.thelaserveincenter.com , www.medicalscrubsrus.com

A really dumb thing to do and against the guidelines! Every time you have resubmitted, you just overwrite the previous submission with the new date...you just move yourself to the bottom of the list each month! There is never a need to resubmit.

Well!!! Not the first really dumb thing I have done and probably not the last. I did get that advice from a "so called" SEO expert.

Thanks Martty, I will leave it alone.

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JBW
www.thelaserveincenter.com , www.medicalscrubsrus.com

I have a couple of sites listed in dmoz, but it seems to be a closed door these days. Anytime I launch a new site, I still submit to dmoz because naturally it can't hurt.

Check out the bottom of the category and see if there is even an editor there, if not try applying to become an editor, make yourself seem economically uninterested in the category.....

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>2000 new sites a week are added. Thats not a closed door; that makes it the fastest growing directory on the www. The problem is that >2000 good sites are created every week!Do NOT do that. There is nothing wrong with being an editor and having a site in a category. Just declare your interest in the application and when an editor, do everything "above board".

I agree, just let them know and you won't have a problem...

There is nothing wrong with submitting once every 3-4 months ... unless things have changed since I was an editor it does not overwrite your earlier submission and move you down the list ... nor does it really annoy most of the editors I knew to see a couple of submissions in the list of a category that is rare edited ... but if you have submitted it that many times it might be a bit much ...

Have you tried sending a very polite note to the editor? That does sometimes help ... though it may also fall on deaf ears ...

And applying to edit the most relevant category is an excellent idea ... a client of mine just got accepted and voila, his site is now added!

Cheers, MJ

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M.-J. Taylor
SEO Web Design by Cyber Key Search Smart Design® SEO Copywriter & Traveling Vacation Gypsy

If its submittd to the same category it overwrites the previous submission!! Where are you getting your information from? This was implemented by DMOZ years ago to deal with all the repeated resubmissions.

Editors can sort the pool of suggested site a number of ways - the default and most common one is by date of submission. A resubmitted site will be moved to the bottom if the editor sorts by date (most do).

There is NOTHING to be gained from resubmitting; all it does is wastes the submitters time.

Well, I was an editor *years* ago - more than 5 - so perhaps that was changed since I left ...

Well, I am not sure how anyone would know what most do. In any case, I always worked from the oldest submission up.

I wouldn't agree. It is possible that an earlier submission was rejected and deleted. Perhaps the quality was low or the editor just didn't like the site. So, submitting again does make sense, as you don't know whether it's still in the queue or not ...

AFAIK, MJ

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M.-J. Taylor
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Are you certain of this martty? That's not the way it currently seems to work.

When I took over my category recently there was quite a long queue to work with - many months. Site suggestions were all logged by date received and their source.

There were three or even four instances of some sites, and each submittal was at its proper place in the queue by date. New suggestions did not overwrite the old, nor were they pushed to the bottom of the queue.

Perhaps your experience has been different in another area of the ODP.

Best regards!

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Raise it in the internal forums at DMOZ, as that is how the system is supposed to work. It was set up that way as a method to deal with the serial submitter. I do know that it does not work if the exact URL is not resubmitted (ie with/without www;deep link) .... if it didn't work that way, imagine how big the pool of repeated listings there will be in the submission pool.

martty, Each of us had a part of the truth.

Re-suggesting an identical URL that has not been listed, moved or deleted by an editor does overwrite the original site suggestion, and will show the date of the last submission. Re-suggesting is clearly counterproductive as the date will remain relatively recent and not raise an editor's concern. The more obsessive a webmaster is about re-suggesting his site, the less likely it is to hit the top of an editor's reverse-calendar queue.

URLs that have been listed, moved or deleted by an editor will not overwrite prior suggestions - it is retained like an update request. In this case site suggestions will stack up in the editor's queue where they will require action. Of course action has already been taken (site listed, moved or deleted) and this instance is also counterproductive for re-suggestors because there is little for an editor to do but delete the re-suggestion.

Depending upon the editor, the dmoz disposition of the URL, and the number of times and frequency with which it is re-suggested it might become an annoyance and should be avoided.

What to do? Well in the category I'm responsible for a polite note still gets a response. There is no dmoz obligation to do so, and, much advice that it is a waste of an editor's time at best.

Full Disclosure - I'm a very junior editor, and, these are only my understandings of the ODP process. They are meant to be accurate and helpful, but not in any way authoritative.

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I'm getting the same problem. My site has been waiting for a long time and, till now, it remains out of their lists and I got no response at all.

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Domínio duBEM
http://dubem.pra-voce.net

I tried for years to get listed, eventually realizing that re-submitting kept 'pushing my suggestion to the bottom of the list,' for want of a better saying.

I am now listed. Took about four weeks to appear. Instead of going for a major business category I submitted to my location eg: country>state>city>suburb.

Not ideal but I am now hoping to be moved to a more relevant category. I have asked for such an update once (a month ago) and nothing has changed although I did see an editor had swung by. I'll wait a while longer and ask again.

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What will that achieve. If its already been declined, asking again will not change it.

If you are listed in the regional category, then you are entitled to also be listed in the topical category (assuming that the site meets the guidelines); as I assume you have already submitted to the topical category, submitting again will not change anything.

Are you saying there would have been an 'instant' update immediately following the editor's visit (after my request to move to another category)?

Entitled? Is there any supporting evidence for this?

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No. As when an editor logs in, updates requests are more prominent and are usually dealt with first by most editors. Assume that your requests have been declined. If you keep submitting update requests, you are turning into a pest as editors with just have to keep deleting them.Entitled was probably the wrong word. If a website meets the guidelines then assume it will eventually get listed in a topical category (even if its submitted or not); if the business has a physical address on the website, then assume that it will eventually get listed in a regional category (even if its submitted or not).

There is NEVER a need to submit a site more than once (or twice if its to a regional and topical category) and there is NEVER a need to submit an update request more than once (unless something else changes). Any more is a waste of your effort; potentially puts you at a disadvantage; and makes you into a pest.