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Old 10-23-2007, 12:36 PM
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So my site has been dropped for some unknown reason from MSN live search results even though we have been around for over 7 years and never performed any spamming or black hat techniques.

So, my question is this, all the top search engines offer the ADD SEARCH TO YOUR SITE in some form or another, so if I add into my site a SEARCH MY SITE and use the MSN version do you think this will aid re-inclusion into their indexes, that said if I include that into the site it may help (don't think it can hurt) but does it mean that perhaps other search engines will see I am in theory favouring MSN and then penalise me - or am I now being paranoid!

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Default Re: Any benefits or penalties for adding engine specific search to your site

This might not answer your question: we had Live Search on one of our sites for about a year, and everything worked fine until around a month or two ago, when our site lost all but one (of around 180) pages from the index. Just like that! Their only explanation (online, anyway) is that the site contains spam.

Live search has a page explaining what to do if this happens, but the link to resolve the issue doesn't work. Some help. So it would seem that having Live Search does not guarantee placement in their index.

We searched for a few items in Google and found our site fully indexed, despite the fact we were using Live Search. Well, MSN's loss is Google's gain: we immediately switched our search engine.
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Where did you find out that your site apparently contained spam? I have emailed MSN and not reply has been forthcoming as our site also had all its pages removed from the index too.
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In their help page it was the only reason given for being removed from the index. Guess that paints us black. The site is static historical information with absolutely no commercial value or enterprise. They just dropped it.

We do have two other sites, also non-profit, education and history that are fully indexed in Live Search. The site search is more than adequate. So I really don't know what happened.

To your original question, upon finding that Google didn't show any prejudice to a site that Live Search de-indexed, and hasn't shown any prejudice to the sites that remain using Live Search, one could conclude that at least G doesn't turn their back.

Yahoo lists 235 pages of the same site, and all the IBLs. Looks okay here.

Yahoo Site Explorer view of site in question

What would you make of that?
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So my site has been dropped for some unknown reason from MSN live search results even though we have been around for over 7 years and never performed any spamming or black hat techniques.

So, my question is this, all the top search engines offer the ADD SEARCH TO YOUR SITE in some form or another, so if I add into my site a SEARCH MY SITE and use the MSN version do you think this will aid re-inclusion into their indexes, that said if I include that into the site it may help (don't think it can hurt) but does it mean that perhaps other search engines will see I am in theory favouring MSN and then penalise me - or am I now being paranoid!

You never know in this game!
You are hiding text which is considered spamming. You have text with foreground color near background color
Search engines consider utilizing the same or similar font color on the same or similar colored background to be spamming. Make sure that the font color differs from the background color by at least 10%.

With MSN you should not use your keywords more than 1 times in the description tag. 2 times found.
So, rather than using your keyword phrase more than once, use synonyms of that keyword phrase.

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site search functionality doesn't harm you anyway. You might be involved in some spam techniques intentionally or unintentionally.
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