MSN Vs Google

[John_Brown]

Hello Friends,
Why does some sites rank well in MSN but Not in Google. What are the factors which leads to such behavior. Do any of you have answer for this.
Please, Let me know.

[stymiee]

Google's algorithm is many years ahead of MSN's. MSN relies heavily on keywords in the URL while Google factors incoming links.

[texxs]

Google's algorithm is many years behind MSN's. MSN relies heavily on keywords in the URL while Google factors incoming links

Google is more geared to advertising sales. That means not putting what people are searching for in the search results. Then businesses will buy the adverts. After all if you were on the first page of google would you give them a few grand a month for the adverts? Of course not.

They don't do this to all keyphrases, just the desirable ones.

MSN and Yahoo are still trying to draw more searchers so they can draw more advertisers, but they have the same goal, they just lean a little more toward giving good results.
but the plan for all of them will always be to NOT include good results in desirable keyphrases.

for example type in the name of your city and the word restauraunt or hotel or attorney and you'll see that google probably is mostly link-farms (oh I'm sorry they're called 'directories' now) on the first few pages, especially if it's a major metropolitain area.

I just did it for Tampa, only 3 of the results were restaurants.

[Konstantin1]

google has different system so it works much more complex than MSn so is the answer ...
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[Pilana]

Rather different algorithm for spiders.

[factoring]

I believe that the results are a little misleading. MSN indexes faster than google or yahoo, therefor if you make changes today for your website. MSN will note those changes and move your site accordingly, while it takes google and yahoo months to make a change.

This is just my personal opinion.

[brian.mark]

Originally Posted by Pilana

Rather different algorithm for spiders.

Spiders have no algorithm. Spiders create an index, then an algorithm determines ranking.

Originally Posted by factoring

I believe that the results are a little misleading. MSN indexes faster than google or yahoo, therefor if you make changes today for your website. MSN will note those changes and move your site accordingly, while it takes google and yahoo months to make a change.

This is just my personal opinion.

I can make changes on our site and see the changes show in Google within 48 hours. Much of it depends on how regularly you're changing content. MSN doesn't beat Google in speed for our site, but on a newer site they will.

Brian.

[sharoncreech]

My experience tell me that it is pretty easy to be high ranked on MSN.However with Google you never know.Also statistic from my website show that Google still send 80% of all visitors.Yahoo 13% and MSN only 7%.

[abel.bond]

My experience is if you're doing well in msn/Yahoo you will do lousy in google and Visa-Versa. And being as google produces most of the traffic on the internet I focus on ranking well in google. I manage a website that went online Mid Jan because of no traffic. I redesigned it by 3-23 and it has been ranking at top 10 for all major keywords in about 2 weeks and this steadily increases. It' is not in a highly competitive market and this is probably why. I've heard that the sandbox doesn't always start from day one so I'm hoping the delayed sandbox doesn't hit it.

[Mekchoudi]

Due to the link farms (directorires...) issue, the fact that Google list first and foremost directories or refering sites in the first 10 results, I now use Live.com and find more relevant info staight away, as someone said MSN search is based on url key phrases not incoming links. If it is really the fact that MSN/Yahoo are far behind Google in terms of technology, i hope they stay there a while, it make search easier. I think Google are sometime preceeded by their reputation and fame, if people look would look more into pure search efficiency they will use other search engines from time to time.

[incrediblehelp]

Well Google beats MSN for me because ranking on Google will lead to traffic and sales, where in MSN is doesn't. Who cares who is smarter at each SE. We are currently forced to desire rankings on Google because more people search there.

[jrb@w3f.com]

Originally Posted by sharoncreech

My experience tell me that it is pretty easy to be high ranked on MSN.However with Google you never know.Also statistic from my website show that Google still send 80% of all visitors.Yahoo 13% and MSN only 7%.

I am not sure if you are looking at the effect instead of the cause.
Maybe the reason you get those percentages is because you are
ranked that well (poor) in each, not because they deliver that
percentage of all seekers to you. Just a thought....

[sam-adam]

Guys , i cans see my stats and i can say that Google deliver more traffic to my sites. I can't say more about algoritms...

[cyberkid]

We receive traffic from MSN and MSN/Live. Google only counts as a single source and Microsoft is providing two sources. Clever....

[erikko]

if we gonna base it on traffic, google is the best SE to develop high traffic and rankings but if we take a loo at how SE delivers sources i can say Microsoft's Live Search got the vote

[yougottakickalittle]

In my limited experience, Google seems to be the fastest and most thorough in listing links to my sites.
I launched a new site this past weekend and Google had it by mid-week. Yahoo had it by today. MSN.... nothing.
I've had new pages/posts indexed by Google within hours of them going up.