Links Galore to Links No More!

JKomp · #1 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 06:40 PM

On msn i have around 180 links to my site www.jkomp.com but on Google i only have 7 and sometimes it only shows 1. Why is this?

Josh Huxley · #2 (**permalink**) 03-22-2005, 02:01 PM

The reason being Google does not usually provide you with all the backlinks which point to your site. I find that msn.com provides more or less all the links which does.

JKomp · #3 (**permalink**) 03-22-2005, 06:17 PM

Thanks, but that is clearly evident from mere observation. What I am asking is why? Is it to do with the recent idea that google is full? Is it another sign that msn is on the incline while Google is wavering and stagnating? Or am i just subscribing to a twisted Ptolemian view of the universe, with me and my site, rather than the earth, as the centre?

jestep · #4 (**permalink**) 03-22-2005, 06:43 PM

Google only updates their backlinks every 3 or 4 weeks.

The reason that I think that they do this, is because they don't want you to see every link that they know about. It gives away too much information about how they index sites, and how they value links. It also helps protect a lot of webmasters from their competitors going and getting the same links into their sites.

I don't think it has anything to do with the idea that the google index filling up, as they have been doing this for a long time.

JKomp · #5 (**permalink**) 03-23-2005, 04:35 AM

Thanks Jestep, but would that suggest that I had got all my links (save 7) over the last month, which is not the case. Surely there has to be another reason for Google only to show 7 out of my 191 links?!

janeth · #6 (**permalink**) 03-27-2005, 01:33 PM

Google does not want you to know what all they see. So they will only show some of the links.

If they showed all the links they counted it would make it easer for people to rank on Google.

freehits · #7 (**permalink**) 03-29-2005, 12:55 PM

This is proven by my competition using the google links to copy all of my inbound links.

I am glad they are not all there for this one reason and likely more.

timmathews.com · #8 (**permalink**) 03-29-2005, 04:06 PM

I agree 100% with the opinions that the Google team will not show you all of the inbound links, preventing:
1.) competitor sniping
2.) Algorythm research

This is good and bad for us.

noel_x99 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-30-2005, 07:05 PM

I figured Google wasn't showing me all the links. MSN and to a lesser extent Yahoo are showing me what I expect. Google shows tons of my internal pages linking to my home page...and I didn't think it was supposed to. I know I have a number of good sites that link and I've never seen them in Google links.

Can you assume if Google is aware of the site, that it would count your IBL from that site?

timmathews.com · #10 (**permalink**) 04-06-2005, 12:40 AM

IMO:
The pages in your site linking to your root url add a "little" to your link popularity.
You need to find people to link to you.
I have PR 4 in Google.com for timmathews.com, and I will exchange a link with you in my bottom navigation if you return the favor.
Let me know.

arefsha · #11 (**permalink**) 04-09-2005, 11:30 AM

Why does Google even provide the "link:" feature if they are not going to show all backlinks? That seems like a wasted feature and it is misleading.

timmathews.com · #12 (**permalink**) 05-03-2005, 09:02 AM

This pisses me off too.
If you search for link:timmathews.com, nothing comes up.
BUT
If you do a search for all pages containing timmathews.com you get a ton. This really does my head in. Anyone have any ideas on how to sort this?

timmathews.com · #13 (**permalink**) 05-03-2005, 09:03 AM

Uh-OH!
POST #100!

wrmineo · #14 (**permalink**) 05-12-2005, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmathews.com

This pisses me off too.
If you search for link:timmathews.com, nothing comes up.
BUT
If you do a search for all pages containing timmathews.com you get a ton. This really does my head in. Anyone have any ideas on how to sort this?

This doesn't answer your question, but I suggest you tweak your search and gain different insights:

link:timmathews.com brings up NIL
link:www.timmathews.com brings up 13 results

The same can be said for site:
site:freshdames.com brings up 533 results, whereas
siet:www.freshdames.com returns only 299

IMO, as the Google IPs synchronize you'll see more consistent results.

Also, although Google says it ignores metas, it does look for and read your robots.txt

Finally, for additional insight and search tweaking ideas, run your site through sitereportcard.

Good Luck and Happy Surfing ~

webhost1 · #15 (**permalink**) 05-25-2005, 01:05 AM

You guys sure have given a lot of info. It still is all a black hole to me. I still don't know what pages any of the search engines have done or not done. Every time I look to try to find out it either goes up or down on how many pages they say they have. Trying to do the right things sure has gotten a lot harder than it used to be.

JKomp · #16 (**permalink**) 09-01-2005, 05:35 PM

it seems weird that google would only show a few links to protect you from your competition - surely they realise msn and yahoo show most of them, so whats the point?

wednesday · #17 (**permalink**) 09-01-2005, 11:40 PM

They don't wont to ease the reverse engineering forces i.e. SEOs. ;) Yahoo and MSN are gaining high ground by winning the webmasters' support.
Note: Not all of the links index by MSN and Yahoo are indexed by google.

DMC_34 · #18 (**permalink**) 09-02-2005, 01:57 AM

jkomp,

The MSN counter doesnt work correctly on page 1. Your site has 93 backlinks according to MSN. MSN will only show up 2 links from any one site. To see the correct number in MSN you need to go to the second to the last page and if your links are less than 250 it will be accurate.

93 - MSN
47 - Google (Sample)

In regards to Google showing just a sample to protect deciphering their algo. Yahoo and MSN also will rank your IBL's as to your best to worst. Google obviously doesnt do this.

DMC