Horrible MSN ranking

Softland · #1 (**permalink**) 01-26-2005, 05:58 AM

We have rather good rankings on Google and Yahoo for certain keywords (incremental backup, backup types, restore data..) and probably for other SEs, but seems like MSN doesn't want to take into consideration our site ( http://www.backup4all.com )at all.

At first I thought that maybe we're not properly indexed, but a domain search revealed that we're present in their index; also the MSN bot visits our site often and we have lots of back links.
So it's a big dilema for me, why does this site rank so poorly on MSN when it ranks good on other search engines?

**jawn_tech** · #2 (**permalink**) 01-28-2005, 09:50 AM

I was beginning to ask myself that same question, then suddenly jumped to great ranks on MSN since their beta went live.

The one positive thing is, though the behavior of their SE is still under observation by many, you can be sure they seem to reindex more frequently than even Google. That means whatever improvements you make to optimize your site for MSN will be picked up more quickly than even Google.

pspot · #3 (**permalink**) 01-28-2005, 12:54 PM

I was doing very well with my MSN Beta. Sometime in the last 10 days I was hit hard and went dropped quickly. Not just one site, but most of my 40 sites. Does anybody know of anything thing that was tweaked for MSN?

pspot · #4 (**permalink**) 01-28-2005, 12:57 PM

I was doing very well with my MSN Beta. Sometime in the last 10 days I was hit hard and went dropped quickly. Not just one site, but most of my 40 sites. Does anybody know of anything thing that was tweaked for MSN?

Softland · #5 (**permalink**) 01-31-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jawn_tech

I was beginning to ask myself that same question, then suddenly jumped to great ranks on MSN since their beta went live.

The one positive thing is, though the behavior of their SE is still under observation by many, you can be sure they seem to reindex more frequently than even Google. That means whatever improvements you make to optimize your site for MSN will be picked up more quickly than even Google.

Well it seems that for us is the reverse thing, we had a better position when it wasn't beta, but gotten worse after the beta released; I could blame it also on the tweaks we did, but there are 2-3 pages that we didn't modify since the beta release so that's my big question mark, is this the "blame" of MSN or the site itself?

I've seen also that the MSN robot is very active, but I would prefer the traffic of the people that use MSN rather then the robot itself :)).

zoasterboy · #6 (**permalink**) 02-03-2005, 07:33 PM

I LOVE MSN!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Tyger · #7 (**permalink**) 02-05-2005, 02:13 AM

Our traffic had been improving steadily for months, and suddenly, on Feb. 2 it dropped to less than half of what it had been. Nothing had changed on the site at all. My theory is that we were ranked well in the old MNS search index, but are apparently either not in the index for the new MSN Search when it came online, or their new algorithms don't like our site much for some reason(s). Since we run Google Adsense ads, I was wondering if MNS dropped us to penalize their competition. Has this happened to anyone else? And does anyone have a clue how to get relisted with them?

tiger1 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-07-2005, 07:54 PM

MSN is like the Google of 2003!!! Easy to rank. However, it's not as popular as G.

2slick · #9 (**permalink**) 02-07-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyger

Since we run Google Adsense ads, I was wondering if MNS dropped us to penalize their competition. Has this happened to anyone else?

I too was running google adsense on my site but it came #1 on MSN with the search term "Philippine Islands".

The theory might be incorrect, as I know MSN rely heavily on content. Google rely on links.

maxsun · #10 (**permalink**) 02-10-2005, 12:15 PM

Since we've implemented Adsense on our websites, it seems they've all taken a nose-dive in Google. Perhaps a coincidence, but ALL 7 of them? (We're not cross-linking the sites).

One has been dropped entirely (!) and it coincided with us stopping all Adwords advertising. We stopped the Ads because we found the ROI to be just horrible.

Seems to me that Google is growing more and more arbitrary and erratic of late. Have to wonder how much the IPO stock pressure and MSN competition coming live has caused some "panic driven" internal reworking?

My question. Anyone else found that implementing Adsense caused a major downgrade in traffic?

gregorym · #11 (**permalink**) 02-13-2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jawn_tech

I was beginning to ask myself that same question, then suddenly jumped to great ranks on MSN since their beta went live.

The one positive thing is, though the behavior of their SE is still under observation by many, you can be sure they seem to reindex more frequently than even Google. That means whatever improvements you make to optimize your site for MSN will be picked up more quickly than even Google.

That is so true, to me MSN is an amazing SE talking about indexing and spidering. Which gives fresh results that no other SE shows in their SERP.

rovers · #12 (**permalink**) 02-14-2005, 05:05 PM

MSN is like the Google of 2003!!! Easy to rank. However, it's not as popular as G.

Give it chance!
It would be interesting to see the percentage share of the big three now on a weekly basis. Everyone's talking about MSN!

Anyone know of a source for SE's percentage share that's readily available?[/quote]

daku · #13 (**permalink**) 02-15-2005, 01:16 AM

I'll be happy if msn gets more popular. My site isn't doing so good in google but it's doing really well in msn so i hope m$ spend more $ and make people use msn more.

allenlopez · #14 (**permalink**) 03-16-2005, 09:00 PM

My site is also indexed on MSN but has low to nonexistent rankings yet 10 or better on Google. Why is this?