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Old 11-14-2004, 12:11 PM
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Default I love it new beta MSN

Wow, I have many site that now rank very well. The way I look at it is this if you can capture top results on any of the top three then focus on that the others will always give you a bit of traffic. Imagine my surprise when i looked at the results for high traffic keywords in this new search and found that many of my sites rank on pages 1 and 2. I was following the results for some time prior to the public launch of the beta site so I knew I would get some good ranks.

I do however have some questions if anyone can answer

When i do a search in the new beta for my #1 targeted keyword at 9:00am I rank # 3 on page one and it shows 5,000,000 results

at 1:00pm same search string I get #2 and it shows 7,000,000 results

and a later search of the same search string I then drop to #9 but ther is now 15,000,000 results

is MSN using different feeds for results?
if so how many?

Also the same search string as above in G**GLE gets me page 9 or so depends on which feed its coming from and Yahoo I get very good results but not as good as the new MSN.
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It could be that there is an additional feed.
msn has been doing this all through the techpreview also
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Old 11-14-2004, 05:24 PM
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Max,
That's the thread we are in. Did you mean this one?:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=31616
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Max,
That's the thread we are in. Did you mean this one?:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=31616
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Yes, sorry, just my own personal bit of lightly ribbing the prior post - do not click on the link I offered up, it will bring you right back here.

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Old 11-16-2004, 11:10 AM
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Last Comic Standing is taking new applications. You guys would be a shoe in for next years series. J/K CBP thanks for the link. Posted my 2cents in there
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Oh, Max, how self-referential of you.

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AGS:
I sent you a pm the other day, can you please read and respond

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Old 11-18-2004, 10:45 AM
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PM read and resonded too. I have notification turned off. I hate pop ups of any kind.
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PM read and resonded too. I have notification turned off. I hate pop ups of any kind.
Thank you ! I know what you mean
Although, you can turn off the pop ups and leave the notifications, so atleast you will get an email
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What can I say other than WOW! I met this new idea of MSN becoming a serious competitor with a bit of skepticism because I'm so use to Yahoo! and Google being the focus of attention. This new MSN bot has already graded A+ in my book. I was truly astonished at how relevant the results were coming up when entering certain key terms..... Though basically anything I put in to the SE seems to come up with highly relevant results.. It really seems like the model search engine.

In example with my own experiences, I have just begun bringing a couple of new sites to the market - one being www.aromagardenonline.com which I started adding to SEs and marketing in August. Didn't once submit anything to MSN, yet it shows up on top in the #1 position with the keyword term Aroma Garden. Caching is up to date as of yesterday which is really nice (IMO). I didn't really believe the whole sandbagging theory with Google until now. It seems Google hasn't cached this website’s index page since November 11th. I see googlebot hasn’t even hit www.aromagardenonline.com since the 21st. Oh; and the ranking on google is so poor for this site that for the term Aroma Garden it puts the result on the 5th page!!! Google was one of the first places I submitted by the way. MSN never even got a “knock, knock” from me and already has me at number 1.

Two other sites; www.sjkenterprises.com and www.sjkhosting.com I only submitted just two days ago to other SE’s (Yahoo!, Google, Jayde, ect..) and the URLs of both already show up in MSN; never even having submitted directly to MSN. I had created a few links here and there over the course of the past couple of weeks; so I suspect the back links are reading and indexing incredibly fast.

Anyhow, just my two cents ... .I just had to spit it out there.
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Old 12-01-2004, 03:58 PM
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Some of my sites are higher in the new MSN than Google, a some are lower, so I am neutral on MSN from this respect.

However - for the last week when I have needed to search for anything unrelated to SEO or my sites (eg movie time; hotel etc) - I have deliberately used both Google and MSN (repeating the search). Conclusion: MSN is crap and has a long way to go to catch up to Google.

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