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I just spoke with the REAL Victoria Brink, who had never heard of this blog, this thread, PRT, OTF, or this scam. So homesnland68, we now can VERIFY that you are a SHILL for the company. Now that we are on to you, why not just come clean? |
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I don't know who you spoke to Youcannotfoolme, but it was not me.
Caught in a lie, why don't you just come clean and tell us what company you work for. You might as well let me know how much YOU are charging for your online advertising services. Can you beat CPS's services? VB |
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Really? Funny, she answered the phone, "Victoria Brink".
And so the PRT/OTF/CPS shill returns. Don't think you are fooling anyone anymore. I spoke to the REAL Victoria Brink TODAY at her office in Eagle River. She had no idea what the hell was going on and was pretty pissed to say the least. You are impersonating her, and in case you didn't know it, you've just opened yourself and your employer to yet another civil suit. Your dishonesty is pathetic. CPS, or Client Placement Services, is yet another version of the same scam. Tell COO Warren Wise and CEO Ron Lightstone that trouble is brewing for them, and you, in ways that will make you all very sorry. Care to try again under another false name? And don't you realize nobody believes you? Remember when you said you tracked my IP address from a WebProWorld Admin and an Admin came here and said that was totally false? So tell us more interesting stories. Please. Last edited by YouCannotFoolMe; 07-18-2007 at 01:15 AM. |
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youcannotfoolme, feel free to contact me and i'll give you a peice of my mind you lying shill. I know you work for webmenu, i know it for a fact. If you don't, and you're really an honest person, feel free to reply to this note with your name, website, and phone number....
i can't wait to see this one, i know you other bloggers can't wait as well.... waiting.... VB |
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That is, what's your REAL contact information, since I spoke to Victoria Brink yesterday. |
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i already gave you my info., as a matter of fact, i wrote it about 12 posts back. You continue to dance around the subject. let me make it simple, what is your name? what do you do? what is your website? what is your phone number?
You shot several accusations my way and continue to tell me i'm not who i say i am. You will not even give me your website/name/ect. i will let the people reading this blog be the judge on who the real shill is. I know your with the company webmenu, which is a small garage co. ran by a bunch of scammers who have all gone to jail. If i'm wrong, prove it. if not, conversation over |
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The people on this blog are laughing at you. I think the verdict came in a long time ago.
Still, I'll be sending you a private message in a little while giving you my contact phone number, so watch your Private Messages inbox here. Why do you continue with this charade? If you are Victoria Brink, which of course you are not, then you should be able to tell us the answers to these pieces of Anchorage trivia: 1) What is the current big controversy concerning real estate agents in Anchorage? 2) What is the name of the street in Anchorage where palm trees grow, even though they are not native to Alaska nor should be able to survive? 3) Which of your 8 Anchorage offices was the first one opened? We are all waiting with baited breath, "Vicky". Last edited by YouCannotFoolMe; 07-18-2007 at 01:18 PM. |
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How you doing on that basic Anchorage test? Frantically Googling to try and find the answers? |
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youcannotfoolme, i am happy to answer your questions as soon as you tell me what your name is, what company you work for, and give me your website/ contact number.
I've asked you 3 times over the past 2 weeks and you continue to dance around the subject. I smell a liar. Lets see vb |
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VB. I am reading this post and I am judging. Not only are you a liar but not a very good one. I also called the real VB and youcannotfoolme is exactly right, she had no clue what I was talking about. You and all of your companies CPS, OTF and how ever many other names you open scam businesses under have finally been caught up with and exposed.
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teamoc is youcannotfoolme, same person, teamoc registered with this blog right after he did as youcannotfoolme, if i'm wrong, feel free to tell me what number i can reach you at and what your website is...you never spoke to me and neither did your alias (youcannotfoolme)...its obvious by now, you will not give me your information..not even your business/title/website...if you cant provide the public with that information it's quite clear that you are a liar
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Your up and at em bright and early in "Alaska" being as how you started at 7:00 am. So if I called you right now, you're telling me you will answer the phone? We both know that is not true.
I already stated exactly who I am, what my business is, and how OTF ripped my company off. You have already been busted. I bet you are really Richard or John from OTF and your just bored right now. What's the matter running out of people to rip off? |
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homesnland68, keep watching your private message inbox for my note on how to contact me.
Funny how you didn't answer those questions about Alaska, either. No, teamoc is not my alias. Hey, teamoc, call back Richard and tell him you appreciate not getting a phone call back from him, and that he can save his answers when he is deposed as part of the class action suit you are filing. |
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just write your info on the site itself, i did...this will give everyone the opportunity to see that you work for some scam company and your just trying to ruin a company name
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First off Hi to everyone out there. I am learning of blogs. I want to thank the people who contacted me about this site. As someone is using my information on this site. For the person doing this. I want you to contact me and prove who you are! I can prove who I am the real Victoria Brink! My business is greatly effected by the web and I do not appreciate you using my name in the manner in which was told to me! If my clients see this my business is greatly affected and you will pay. You or anyone else can reach me through Anchorage, Eagle River and Mat-su, Alaska Real Estate Listings & Homes For Sale - Victoria Brink - NUMBER1EXPERT™ . If there is a law suit out there please get a hold of me. If you do not have the respect of your name you have nothing, and no one has the right to take it from you!
Victoria Brink 907-351-9434 Last edited by VictoriaBrink; 07-20-2007 at 06:56 PM. |
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Hello and welcome to the REAL Victoria Brink.
This will likely be the last we hear of "homesnland68". As Victoria has graciously provided her phone number, any doubters can now call her directly -- not that anyone had been fooled. So, homesnland68, now that we have established you as a liar who has misrepresented yourself, it is painfully apparent that you are working for PRT, OTF, and CPS. We are all waiting for your apology, and of course, your real contact information. Also, teamoc has provided you with his info. Please let us know how that conversation goes. |
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Actually my information went to the real Victoria Brink. Instead of another phone call I looked her up through Prudential and sent her a email notifying her that her name and business was being used.
Victoria you have my contact information and are welcome to contact me at any time. My company IS filing a class action and I am sure that all of the fake replies by homesnland68 will help our case. Thank you for coming forward and helping out. Let us know if we can help out in any way. Greg |
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Good luck Greg, I do not work for any of those companies, i'm simply a satisfied client, and they have done me several phrases and i've written testimonials, referred my friends, and i do not appreciate you bashing one of the few legitimate companies thats out there today. You will never win a class action suit against these companies because i know for a fact that they actually work quite hard to satisfy clients and deliver results. Just because you made a bad advertising decision and you do not know how to market online correctly, doesnt meen that you can bash a co. because of your misfortune. I'm satisfied, and as far as vicky brink, you can contact me directly, you know who i am, i sent you a referral in the past, i'll shoot you an email.
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You've got some nerve. An admitted liar and you want to tell me I know nothing about marketing? My company has been around since 1988, has hundreds of offices in the U.S. Canada, and Europe, has never had one law suit, has had the same name since then, and I can promise you has never had anything but an A rating with the BBB. Not one of your companies can say that. I have forgotten more about any type of marketing than you will ever know.
As far as the law suit for every one pretend person (suchs as yourself) that says they are happy with any of the OTF companies. I will have 5 legit companies testify how they were ripped off! I can not believe as an admitted liar you had the nerve to show back up here. Why not go ahead and post your REAL information since you are so happy. I would love to talk with you in person. |
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And how can you continue with the charade when the real Vicky Brink is on the board and we have all called her? |
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In case anyone is wondering, when you go to www.alexa.com and check out PRT's various websites (hard to keep them all straight), and this includes the main website for their bogus toolbar, you find that the actual traffic to those sites is so low it is immeasurable.
So how could there possibly be 14 million downloads (is that they are up to now? Can't keep that straight, either), when there's been NO TRAFFIC since the thing came out exactly one year ago? |
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The COO of PRT is a guy named Warren Wise. Funny, I just found a still unpaid judgment for over $200,000 against him in a lawsuit from ten years ago. Naughty, naughty!!!
Case Number: BC146016 STEVEN A. GOLDSTEIN, ET AL VS WARREN A. WISE, ET AL Filing Date: 03/11/1996 Case Type: Commrcial Compl-Not Tort or Complx (General Jurisdiction) Status: Other Judgment 09/24/1996 Future Hearings None Documents Filed | Proceeding Information Parties A & M QUALITY WASH - Plaintiff/Petitioner's DBA A.M.B.E.H. INDUSTRIES INC. - Plaintiff/Petitioner GOLDSTEIN STEVEN A. - Plaintiff/Petitioner KHAKSHOOY ARASH A. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner WIESEL BERNARD P. LAW OFFICES OF - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petnr WISE APPAREL GROUP LTD. A CORP. - Defendant/Respondent WISE INDUSTRIES LTD. - Defendant/Respondent WISE WARREN A. - Defendant/Respondent Case Information | Party Information | Proceeding Information Documents Filed (Filing dates listed in descending order) 05/29/2007 Substitution of Attorney (NEW COUNSEL - ARASH A. KHAKSHOOY ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 09/05/2006 Renewal of Judgment (IN THE AMOUNT OF $201,722.19 FILED ) Filed by Creditor 12/02/1997 Notice (Ntc of ruling re appearance & oral exam ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 11/17/1997 Proof of Service (POS to Warren A. Wise ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 10/31/1996 Abstract of Judgment (2 ABSTRACT ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 09/24/1996 Request and Entry of Dismissal (WITH PREJUDICE DOES 1 THROUGH 10 INCLUSIVE ONLY ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 09/24/1996 Request (FOR COURT JUDGMENT ) Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 09/24/1996 Memo of Costs Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 09/24/1996 Declaration Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 06/10/1996 Ord to Show Cause (Ntc to Appear) Filed by Clerk 05/17/1996 Default Entered Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 05/17/1996 Proof of Service Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr 05/17/1996 Summons Filed Filed by Clerk 03/11/1996 Complaint Filed by Attorney for Pltf/Petnr Case Information | Party Information | Documents Filed Proceedings Held (Proceeding dates listed in descending order) 03/11/1998 at 09:00 am in Department 1A, Murray Gross, Presiding Judgment Debtor Examination Hrng - Off Calendar 02/11/1998 at 09:00 am in Department 1A, Murray Gross, Presiding Judgment Debtor Examination Hrng - Matter continued 12/17/1997 at 09:00 am in Department 1A, Murray Gross, Presiding Judgment Debtor Examination Hrng - Matter continued 12/01/1997 at 09:00 am in Department 1A, Murray Gross, Presiding Judgment Debtor Examination Hrng - Matter continued 10/15/1997 at 09:00 am in Department 1A, Murray Gross, Presiding Judgment Debtor Examination Hrng - Off Calendar 09/25/1996 at 08:30 am in Department 57, Fumiko Wasserman, Presiding Non-Appearance (Case Review) - Completed 08/30/1996 at 08:30 am in Department 57, Fumiko Wasserman, Presiding Non-Appearance (Case Review) - Completed 07/29/1996 at 08:30 am in Department 57, Fumiko Wasserman, Presiding Order to Show Cause - Matter continued |
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The latest news is that alwaysonthelookout has just about nailed the entire story, if you go back to page one of this thread.
Apparently, the toolbar/keyword concept was developed by John Sloatman of Webmenu. Charles Lloyd, who is behind the MySpace Guardian Toolbar, was apparently either kicked out of the company or left. Apparently, it was a bitter breakup and the accusation some have made is that Lloyd stole this technology. This explains why the poster who is impersonating Vicky Brink, homesnland68, has accused many of us for working for Webmenu and derided their operation. This leads me to believe that homesnland68 may very well be Charles Lloyd himself. So we have Webmenu who "legitimately" licenses the technology to others, such as StarPosition. Whether or not they have a network as large as they claim and generate organic hits or not is another discussion, although I would caution anyone to 100% verify an claim made. Meanwhile, Lloyd is apparently the guy behind all the companies One Top Firm, Surfspeak, Simply Voice and so on. Every time they get an F rating, the companies get dumped and a new one pops up. The latest is Portal Response Technology. The difference this time is that Warren Wise (the COO) and Ron Lightstone (CEO) are involved. Although they've claimed to have spent 'millions" on the toolbar, I think any software developer knows that such a claim is probably significantly exaggerated. Also, the claim of 14 million toolbars after being around only 16 months seems highly questionable. Clearly, they are attempting to create a legitimate network by preying on the fears associated with MySpace. It does appear that Lloyd is the same Charles Lloyd that was nailed by the FTC for a medical billing scam and the FTC settled with him. His partners in this new operation, PBH LLC (which stands for Perkins, Brinson, Ho) have previously released other software, one of which was called ClearSearch and IGetNet and was identified by these websites as being spyware: ClearSearch - CA Spyware, Adware and Trojan Horse Research - Adware.ClearSearch Remove :: Safely Uninstall, Delete and Be Rid Of ClearSearch Spyware and Adware And many others.... So we have Lloyd, an FTC defendant and alleged thief, and PBH, a spyware producer partnering on a toolbar that may very well be violating a trademark (MySpace), working with Warren Wise, who owes $200,000 in unpaid judgments, sellling keywords that many people here believe were fraudulently sold to them. I think the saddest things are that Lloyd appears to be 36 years old, meaning he was nailed by the FTC at age 31, and may have started the billing scam as early as his late 20's. How could someone have gone so wrong at so young an age? Couldn't have he used his resourcefulness to make an honest living instead of the apparently questionable one he is doing now? And what about Warren Wise, age 64? Is this the only way to secure a nice retirement? And what of Ron Lightstone? This fellow is an entertainment luminary, who has held top posts at major media corporations. What is he doing getting mixed up in something like this? It's a sad thing all around, especially since the FTC, AG, and class action are coming down the pike. Last edited by YouCannotFoolMe; 08-01-2007 at 01:46 PM. |
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I have recently been in discussion with "Client Placement Services" and am interested in feedback from the group.
I am wary of proceeding with this opportunity because of the spyware nature of their product. But, they are offering me a guarantee of the number of site hits I will get, including a refund. <note that the references to Search Direct Media concern me a bit, as they haven't referred to themselves as such in any way until the point of the invoice> 2. There are no refunds available, except as follows: if the Client does not receive increased traffic to the site from the keywords listed on page on this order, 10,000 hits over the first 180 days from the original date of registration, Search Direct Media will refund the full amount of the order. Has anyone else had experience with these guarantees? I'm skeptical that they can deliver the traffic they promise. I'm not sure if I will proceed in any case, but I'm aggressively looking for new sources of traffic, having exhausted search (org & paid), affiliate and have had terrible results with anything on a CPM basis. Any input you can provide would be very valuable. |
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THIS IS AN UNQUESTIONABLE SCAM. If you've read this blog in its entirety, you'll see how many people have already been screwed out of their money, and that this firm sent along one of its employees to impersonate a real estate agent from Anchorage. You should also read: http://blog.retailblogmarketing.com/...rdian-toolbar/ And there is a reason Client Placement Services has an F rating from the BBB: Go to www.bbbsouthland.org Type in Client Placement Services for Company Reports Click on either of the two listings that come up. You'll see a company called "One Top FIrm" appears with an F rating. Click on the world "other" next to the name and you'll find the several other names the firm has operated under. AVOID. SCAM. |
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Another name has cropped up. Most likely yet another licensee of Charles Lloyd's. This one is in Las Vegas. The firm sports the same exact website as all the others. Now it's called.....
"Search Direct Media" BEWARE!!!! |
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I unfortunately am a client of Portal response Technology - which I understand is also know as Search Direct media. I am seeking a refund of my money. They promised me 12,000 unique visitors per month with a 90 day ramp up period. They barely made it to 12K in 90 days but on day 91, my traffic literally stopped - I barely receive 100 visits a day now. Now someone named Warren Wise is telling me 1. we only promised you 12,000 2. our network isn't that large 3. we can't control traffic (although they can promise a certain number in 90 days) 4. its my job to read the contract and convert my own sales I just wanted the traffic and now that I want a refund I'm finding they will offer neither. Hope this information helps you and anyone else who is lured into a conversation on the phone with their sales people. |
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I would call this Warren Wise character and really hammer him for a refund or tell him he'll be hearing from your attorney. What does he mean "our network isn't that large"? If a salesman told you the standard line of 10 - 14 million and now he denies that, then that's false advertising. Warren will hem and haw and tell you to sue, but if you want your money back, the only way is to do just that. You should contact my private message box and I will put you in touch with others who are planning to do the same. Last edited by YouCannotFoolMe; 09-22-2007 at 02:19 PM. |
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A couple of months back I read that you had a class action law suite in the works against One Top Firm, is this still open? Can I get in on it? They really screwed me as well! A Richard Harty from "Customer Support and a Jesse Goens SA, promised to refund my money back in July (in an email ) because they did not meet their obligations. To this day I have not received a refund nor have I heard a word back to my numerous emails. I have attached a copy of Richard Harty's email of One Top Firms admitting falling short on their contract and the BOGUS promise of a refund:
Good Morning ******, I do apologize that I will not be able to keep our scheduled appointment, however I spoke to my manager after reviewing your account. I found that we did in fact fall short of our guarantee to you and per your contract you are entitled to a full refund. As I said I spoke to my manager in regards to this and I was advised that we will be providing you with said refund. I cannot at this time give you the exact date as our accounting department is closed at this time. They will be in the office Monday, I believe, and I should be able to provide you with a timeframe as to when to expect that refund check to be mailed. My apologies for the difficulties in getting this handled properly. Best Wishes Richard Harty Customer Support Richard Harty *These people are ALL Cons, please beware! Would someone (YouCannotFoolMe) please be so kind to e-mail me the Attorney information? Last edited by Away from the Rat Race; 09-26-2007 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Clean up |
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I'm not the one who is actually filing a lawsuit, I'm like you - anxious to join it when it happens.
Contact Larry he's got the information Sorry about that happening to you- you're lucky you have that in writing. Last edited by mike; 10-01-2007 at 12:35 PM. |
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NEW STRATEGY:
It's time more people knew about these guys. While we may be out money, we can make sure others don't get scammed. Contact the following news organizations with your story: KCAL 9 Investigative Reporter David Goldstein: djgoldstein@cbs.com NBC 4 reporters: ana.garcia@nbcuni.com |
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Search Direct Media is a SCAM.
Just another company name of the same scam. And they've bought a Google Sponsored Link. Everyone do a Google search under their name, then repeatedly click on the link and they'll be paying a lot of money for their ad! |
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They're at it again!
ANother company, again linked to the California operation, although this one is based in Florida. TOP SEARCH SOLUTIONS website is topsearch1.com Beware. It's a scam! |
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I was also a victim of Portal Response Technology. We paid them over $20K. I would like to know if there is a lawsuit or any criminal acation that has been taken against PRT. I have some interesting evidence that I could offer to prove the scam. Someone at PRT when entering our key words, mis-spelled a word. PRT claims that over 3000 people typed in this search term with the mis-spelled word. After 90 days there was 0 hits on that term. This is statistically impossible. I have much more info if there is someone filing a Class Action.
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An Open Letter to One Top Firm and its Affiliates:
Our law firm has been advised that you are attempting to chill free speech by threatening posters with legal action for their posts. We wish to take this opportunity to remind you that these tactics will not be tolerated by either our firm or the State of California. Several courts, including in California where your operation resides, have repeatedly upheld Sec. 425.16 of the Code of Civil Procedure, known as the anti-SLAPP provision. This provision clearly provides relief for anyone whose free speech is threatened by malicious prosecution designed to chill public participation. That relief includes the recovery of damages and attorney's fees. It is apparent from the postings on this particular blog that a number of your clients have experienced less-than-satisfactory results, and that many of them have raised concerns regarding your operation. We reiterate their right to express that opinion. If you wish to silence these posters, your efforts will not go unchallenged and you are likely to lose more than you hope to gain. We advise you to go about your business with honesty and integrity, and perhaps these complaints will not be so widespread. |
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Web Attorney,
I just registered after seeing your post concerning One Top Firm aka Search Direct Media . They are threatening me with prosecution for posting that I think they are a scam. Since they obviously are scamming people I'm assuming they are just threats and any legal action they might take would not be something I need to worry about. Am I right? Scammed Again Quote:
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In most cases, they are attempting to suss out who you actually are. If they have phoned you, you should seriously consider ignoring the phone call. They have no way of knowing who you are unless you tell them. They cannot subpoena this website or any other and expect results.
You should be very cautious about returning any phone call you receive from them. Doing so will confirm your identity, by linking your screen name to their guess. You may also choose to contact your own attorney to respond on your behalf, but unless a civil complaint has been filed, you do not need to. We know operatives from One Top Firm and its affiliates read these boards. We reiterate that any attempt to silence free speech and chill public participation will be aggressively defended by our firm and other Free Speech Advocates. |
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what an interesting thread. a friend of mine got a call from one of these outfits and didn't sign up. i have direct links to talk radio down here in southern california: guys like John and Ken on KFI, Bill Handel, Larry Elder, Doug McIntyre. if enough people tell me they have been threatened by these asswipes, I'll give them all the bad publicity they want.
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