Site Visitors From Blogs

[janeth]

My thinking is that if you can make 30 plus post, per day, everyday, then by the end of one year you can be getting millions of visitors to your site just from your blog. I've not tested it, although I'm really interested in knowing if it will work.

I have tried a couple times to test my theory using different blogs but ended up loosing interest in the blogs with in a couple days and never making more then about 5 post per day.

I think I'm going to try it again using my GeeksOnSteroids blog and the forums to find information to post about and see what happens.

[Chris]

30 posts a day? are you talking about the "copy and paste" posts or posts with actual original content? the latter of these two, posts with original content, takes longer to produce and because of that, 30 in one 24-hour period is a little much... and that's w/out sleeping.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Chris

30 posts a day? are you talking about the "copy and paste" posts or posts with actual original content? the latter of these two, posts with original content, takes longer to produce and because of that, 30 in one 24-hour period is a little much... and that's w/out sleeping.

The content has to be original. I don't it would be that hard to come up with short post. I'm not talking about articles but short post.

Take a look at http://perezhilton.com/ here is a guy that started with nothing but has become very pouplar due to his blog and he makes around 30 post per day.

I'm just wondering if the number of post have anything to do with how pouplar the blog has become?

[janeth]

Just for an idea on the amount of traffic his blog gets.

Hilton claimed that on November 29, 2006, his website served over 3.97 million unique visitors in a 24 hour period.

[Chris]

yeah, but you don't need long posts when dealing with Hollywood. you can sum up everything you need to know about these "celebs" in one or two sentences; sometimes, with only one or two words (vapid, useless). ;)

however, internet marketing is a little different. altho, i'd like to see a headline-like blog for this industry. if you could do it like fark or techmeme, you might be on to something.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Chris

yeah, but you don't need long posts when dealing with Hollywood. you can sum up everything you need to know about these "celebs" in one or two sentences; sometimes, with only one or two words (vapid, useless). ;)

however, internet marketing is a little different. altho, i'd like to see a headline-like blog for this industry. if you could do it like fark or techmeme, you might be on to something.

I thought you had a blog at one time Chris?

My understanding according to fc_liam a member of another forum is that http://www.engadget.com was in the top 1000 of Alexa and it gets around 30 post a day. The post are a lot longer.

[Chris]

i do have a blog - http://blogs.webpronews.com - but i don't make 30 a day. my latest post took me about 1/2 hour to write and another 20 or minutes used "researching" the topic. so unless i'm spending my entire day - minus sleep - i'll be hard pressed to see 20 posts a day, let alone 30.

as for endgadget, don't they have a number of contributors? if you are really shooting for that number, i'd recommend getting some contributors.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Chris

i do have a blog - http://blogs.webpronews.com - but i don't make 30 a day. my latest post took me about 1/2 hour to write and another 20 or minutes used "researching" the topic. so unless i'm spending my entire day - minus sleep - i'll be hard pressed to see 20 posts a day, let alone 30.

as for endgadget, don't they have a number of contributors? if you are really shooting for that number, i'd recommend getting some contributors.

I agree about getting the contributors and will start working on that today.

Have you ever looked at how much of an increase there is in traffic on the days you post verses the days you don't post?

I also thought you had a lot more people doing blog post on WPW?

[Chris]

sorry for my delayed response... duty calls and all that. as for traffic fluctuations, the thing i've noticed when it comes to traffic has to do with the subject and the title of the post... even more than my posting frequency.

another time i see more traffic is if i link out to some of the other SEO/SMO gurus. they will usually drop by and comment or link to my post from their blog. but i don't doubt frequency helps as well (some days are definitely better than others).

as for the other people, we do have blog contributors to WPN, but i'm normally the only one doing updates on the WPN blog. sometimes other authors post there, but it's normally just me.

[janeth]

Hi Chris,

I understand about getting tied up with other stuff.

If it has to do with the subject and the title of the post, I figure if I post every day, 30 post, then in a years time I'll get at lest one with the subject and the title of the post right. (-:

I'm also looking into fark to see how hard it would be to set something like that up for a marketing site.

[incrediblehelp]

30 posts a day? Blah! Now that is passion and time. I guess if I was kid again living at home I would give it a try.

I know doing testing with auto blog software (in the past) making 10-12 scrapper posts on a blog about entertainment (pick a subject) can really get some traction in the SERPs. The reason is simple your usually the first one with a page on the topic.

Of course we all know scrapping is garbage and I do not advise doing it. I was just testing.

[bj]

Apparently the buzz around the top blogs is that if you post prior to 7AM US EST you realize an increase in traffic in the neighborhood of 10 to 20% for that post. I've been using timestamp so I can do that, since my brain is too mushy to write that early in the day.

Mentioned here during last week's Open Mic:

www.successful-blog.com/1/the-mic-is-on-are-we-stat-crazy-or-analytical/

[janeth]

Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

30 posts a day? Blah! Now that is passion and time. I guess if I was kid again living at home I would give it a try.

I know doing testing with auto blog software (in the past) making 10-12 scrapper posts on a blog about entertainment (pick a subject) can really get some traction in the SERPs. The reason is simple your usually the first one with a page on the topic.

Of course we all know scrapping is garbage and I do not advise doing it. I was just testing.

I'm playing with the site design and updating everything on the site right now but I'm going to give it a try.

If I'm correct then 30 post per day should double what you were able to see with the other blogs?

[janeth]

Originally Posted by bj

Apparently the buzz around the top blogs is that if you post prior to 7AM US EST you realize an increase in traffic in the neighborhood of 10 to 20% for that post. I've been using timestamp so I can do that, since my brain is too mushy to write that early in the day.

Mentioned here during last week's Open Mic:

www.successful-blog.com/1/the-mic-is-on-are-we-stat-crazy-or-analytical/

Thanks BJ, I'll look into that as well. I'm up at around 5:00 am and can give that a try. I can even write the post the night before if it works out.

[TrafficProducer]

Maybe you need an actual Blog site, www URL, and not a blog?

The idea, to get traffic is to have users, (will take work to moderate posts), post their blogs resulting in Traffic..

[janeth]

Originally Posted by TrafficProducer

Maybe you need an actual Blog site, www URL, and not a blog?

The idea, to get traffic is to have users, (will take work to moderate posts), post their blogs resulting in Traffic..

You could be correct but I'm thinking most people will find the blog from links so the name should not matter at first and if someone types in the site name there is an easy to find link to the blog there.

But then I could be wrong.

[red]

This post has me wondering why I don't have a blog for my own site. I certainly realize the value in having one. Problem is I haven't got time to learn to make one right now and could sure use a hand. My site is a Miva merchant site and, of course I'm willing to pay for the work. Can any of you recommend someone that has familiarity with Miva Merchant sites? Please PM me if you are interested (after looking at my site) or can recommend a developer that could accomplish this for me.
Thanks!

[janeth]

Hi Red,

I want charge you anything but can have one of the guys take a look at it if you want.

[dburdon]

Hmmm.

This could kill the whole credibility of blogs. I'm sure with such high output quality falls. In the end, when everyone has a blog, all that they will write about is other peoples blogs.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by dburdon

Hmmm.

This could kill the whole credibility of blogs. I'm sure with such high output quality falls. In the end, when everyone has a blog, all that they will write about is other peoples blogs.

I've not seen very many people that follow through with anything, so I doubt that will ever become a problem. (:

[briguy]

Maybe a more realistic strategy is 10 to 15 post a day and leaving about 20 comments on other people blogs?

[janeth]

Originally Posted by briguy

Maybe a more realistic strategy is 10 to 15 post a day and leaving about 20 comments on other people blogs?

That sounds like a better goal, I'm already getting lazy. (:

[bj]

Well, Janeth, for personal reasons I got lazy with my blogging in December and did see a drop in traffic and backlinks, and yes, I'm back on track with it now. The drop was small but noticeable. So I really think consistency is the key, whether it be once a week, once a day, or once an hour.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by bj

Well, Janeth, for personal reasons I got lazy with my blogging in December and did see a drop in traffic and backlinks, and yes, I'm back on track with it now. The drop was small but noticeable. So I really think consistency is the key, whether it be once a week, once a day, or once an hour.

To do 30 post a day you would have to be putting almost one out every hour. 0:

[bj]

By the way, Janeth, did I mention that you are NUTS to do this? Thirty a day. Damn. You better get some help. :)

[janeth]

Originally Posted by bj

By the way, Janeth, did I mention that you are NUTS to do this? Thirty a day. Damn. You better get some help. :)

It sounds like I will need some help. I want to get started on it tomorrow.

[briguy]

Originally Posted by bj

By the way, Janeth, did I mention that you are NUTS to do this? Thirty a day. Damn. You better get some help. :)

lol weren't some of the great achievers past and present considered nuts...

[janeth]

Originally Posted by briguy

lol weren't some of the great achievers past and present considered nuts...

I should be right there then because everyone that works for me things I'm nuts.

[dburdon]

Take a look at most newspaper websites. They now allow comments against stories. These are generally poor quality. With, I have to accept, one or two gems.

Then take a look at the letters page - particularly in the quality newspaper - in the printed version. They're a much higher quality, with some excellent arguments.

Maybe the blog has peaked as a communications medium. Its now into late majority land.

[bj]

Take a look at most newspaper websites. They now allow comments against stories. These are generally poor quality. With, I have to accept, one or two gems.

Then take a look at the letters page - particularly in the quality newspaper - in the printed version. They're a much higher quality, with some excellent arguments.

I don't find this to be the case on Alternative Media or New Media sites, the ones that are reporting the news that Big Media won't touch (case in point-- the recent National Conference on Media Reform, or the FCC Scandal unearthed by Senator Boxer here in the US.) I think the reason you don't see as many intelligent responses on traditional media outlet websites is because the smart folks don't read the (corporate agendized) news there anymore, but instead go elsewhere to alternative sources, like Mother Jones, Daily Kos, Ars Technica, Common Cause, Free Press, or Huffington Post.

So I think your premise is faulty. And blogs are here to stay, at least for quite awhile. If yours isn't doing well, maybe you're not doing it in the most effective way.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by dburdon

Maybe the blog has peaked as a communications medium. Its now into late majority land.

I disagree, the internet is about information and blogs are about getting it out there. I find myself searching more and more using http://blogsearch.google.com/ rather than Google.

[janeth]

I would also put a new blog up against a new website any day of the week, for which will get the most visitors.

[briguy]

Earlier I mentioned a strategy..well I would like to add to that strategy.. how about a posting in English, followed by the same posting in Spanish (or French German etc.)..wouldn't this open up new markets?
Just a random thought that I wanted to share!

[janeth]

Originally Posted by briguy

Earlier I mentioned a strategy..well I would like to add to that strategy.. how about a posting in English, followed by the same posting in Spanish (or French German etc.)..wouldn't this open up new markets?
Just a random thought that I wanted to share!

What A great idea. I think I might give that a try.

[Anita Campbell]

Janeth, according to the Technorati State of the Blogosphere report from October 2006, there is a definite connection between posting frequency and authority of a blog. The top-ranked blogs in Technorati averaged about 2 posts per day (53 per month):

http://technorati.com/weblog/2006/11/161.html

Thirty posts a day would be pretty difficult for most individuals. Usually only group blogs can manage that, or ones where the blogger has helpers who feed news snippets to him or her, edit posts, find images to include, and so on.

But 2 posts a day -- now that's very doable for a single person.

Anita

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Anita Campbell

Janeth, according to the Technorati State of the Blogosphere report from October 2006, there is a definite connection between posting frequency and authority of a blog. The top-ranked blogs in Technorati averaged about 2 posts per day (53 per month):

http://technorati.com/weblog/2006/11/161.html

Thirty posts a day would be pretty difficult for most individuals. Usually only group blogs can manage that, or ones where the blogger has helpers who feed news snippets to him or her, edit posts, find images to include, and so on.

But 2 posts a day -- now that's very doable for a single person.

Anita

Hi Anita,

You may be correct and I may have to settle for two post a day but I'm hoping for more. Thanks a lot of the link, that helps me out a lot.

[pdstein]

Janeth, if you want to increase traffic to your blog forget 30 posts a day, just post 1 wacky post like this each day and you'll have plenty of traffic. You're posts are getting into the WebProWorld daily email on a regular basis, so you obviously know how to get attention.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by pdstein

Janeth, if you want to increase traffic to your blog forget 30 posts a day, just post 1 wacky post like this each day and you'll have plenty of traffic. You're posts are getting into the WebProWorld daily email on a regular basis, so you obviously know how to get attention.

There is no doubt that WPW is a great way to get traffic to your website but I was trying to come up with a couple other ways as well. (-:

[pdstein]

Originally Posted by janeth

There is no doubt that WPW is a great way to get traffic to your website but I was trying to come up with a couple other ways as well. (-:

I was suggesting you post wacky ideas like this on your own blog instead of here. Why should WPW get the traffic generated from posts like this instead of your blog?

Maybe tomorrow you can post a way to get to the top of the Google rankings by changing your site color to blue since most of the top sites are blue. The next day you can post a sure-fire way to get an article to the front page of Digg by paying elementary school computer teachers to require their students to digg your articles to get an A.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by pdstein

I was suggesting you post wacky ideas like this on your own blog instead of here. Why should WPW get the traffic generated from posts like this instead of your blog?

I'm not so sure it's a wacky idea.

[briguy]

Originally Posted by pdstein

Maybe tomorrow you can post a way to get to the top of the Google rankings by changing your site color to blue since most of the top sites are blue.

Okay I will bite...what shade of blue..lol

[mantawebsolutions]

I'm coming in a bit late on this subject, but have to agree, 30 posts a day is quite a lot. If you have nothing else to do, well, OK, but to do proper research and write one article will take between 30 to 60 minutes.

Articles on a blog don't have to be very long, but it should contain enough good content to entice the reader to click through to your site.

janeth, why don't you simply start with posting 10 good quality articles a day.?

My idea of having a blog is to gradually (even if i post one quality article/post a day) gain momentum and build up some credibility in my field of expertise.

You have to have a love for writing to post 30 posts a day. Perhaps BJ is right, we have to be nuts to even consider that number of posts a day, but then again, some of us might just already be nuts anyway!!

[mantawebsolutions]

perhaps I should also throw this in while I'm at it...

Blogs should not just be there to increase the number of visits to your site.

What does it help when you get x-amount more visitors but it does not convert to sales.

If you blog about your niche, then you blog should function to support and promote the product that you sell on your site.

Your blog is the selling point and your site the point of sale...

is this making sense ?

[JohneeMac]

Coming in late aswell but 30 quality* blog posts seems outrageous, i mean if you going to be doing just that and nothing else i guess its possible, but quality posts that will provide return visitors!?! im not so sure...

[janeth]

Originally Posted by mantawebsolutions

I'm coming in a bit late on this subject, but have to agree, 30 posts a day is quite a lot. If you have nothing else to do, well, OK, but to do proper research and write one article will take between 30 to 60 minutes.

Articles on a blog don't have to be very long, but it should contain enough good content to entice the reader to click through to your site.

janeth, why don't you simply start with posting 10 good quality articles a day.?

My idea of having a blog is to gradually (even if i post one quality article/post a day) gain momentum and build up some credibility in my field of expertise.

You have to have a love for writing to post 30 posts a day. Perhaps BJ is right, we have to be nuts to even consider that number of posts a day, but then again, some of us might just already be nuts anyway!!

I'll start with 10 and see how it goes.

[janeth]

I've played around for the last hour and have made four post in that hour. Here is the thing, I'm not a writer or a blogger and I'm not trying to become either.

It's like driving down the road in my car, I might see another car I really like and say I like that car and point it out to some friends but this does not mean I'm going to go home and try and build the car. I may also say that the car would look better with a different paint job and leave it at that.

The same with my blog, I'm not a blogger or writer but if I see something online that interest me then I'll write a short post, point to it and add in my two cents. I'm going to try for 30 post per day, if I don't make it, I can live with that but at least I tried.

[JohneeMac]

Yeah those kind of posts would certainly be possible. I was saying for a full 500 - 1000 word, high quality, unique and intriqing blog post - 30 would be a lot for a day.

A link to a page with a comment is a bit different.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by JohneeMac

Yeah those kind of posts would certainly be possible. I was saying for a full 500 - 1000 word, high quality, unique and intriqing blog post - 30 would be a lot for a day.

A link to a page with a comment is a bit different.

I'll leave the writing to the writers, I think all I need to make the traffic come in is my two cents. (:

[bj]

Janeth, I personally think that for this to work you need at least one or two "meaty" posts a day, ones that are at a minimum of 300 words and have at least a bit of research behind them. Just doing one liners with links and images won't give enough scope for keyphrases, at least IMHO, since I regularly analyze the weirdass keyphrases people use to find me.

And a single well thought out and more content rich article a day, along with what you're proposing, shouldn't be TOO much to handle, though it's more than I'd want to do. :)

[janeth]

Originally Posted by bj

Janeth, I personally think that for this to work you need at least one or two "meaty" posts a day, ones that are at a minimum of 300 words and have at least a bit of research behind them. Just doing one liners with links and images won't give enough scope for keyphrases, at least IMHO, since I regularly analyze the weirdass keyphrases people use to find me.

And a single well thought out and more content rich article a day, along with what you're proposing, shouldn't be TOO much to handle, though it's more than I'd want to do. :)

I'll try and do one "meaty" post a day a long with the others and see how they work out. (: