Marketing a site with no money.

[janeth]

I’ve seen rich people end up with nothing and poor people end up living a good life. I guess a lot depends on how we use what God has given us. I don’t think I need a pat on the back, I only used a little God given common sense.

If it was between going out and partying or buying a car I decided I’d rather save up and buy the car.

The next day the partying crowd’s heads are hurting, while I’m working harder inspired by my thoughts of a new car.

[Andilinks]

Originally Posted by janeth

The next day the partying crowd’s heads are hurting, while I’m working harder inspired by my thoughts of a new car.

I suspect it's true for all of us who are posting or reading here Sunday morning. It certainly confirms that who you were yesterday determines who you will be today, tracable all the way back to the day you were born.

I didn't want to begin a philosophical debate--there are those things under your control and there are those things that happen to you. If you want to believe otherwise that is your choice, no determinism is being imposed here.

I still think I'm lucky to be here.

[janeth]

I don’t believe in luck, although I do believe that God looks out of us and sometimes allows things to happen, to get us back on track.

But the real problem with luck is the abuse it has taken over the years.

People refer to the poor as the "unlucky" and to the rich as "lucky"

This way we don’t blame the person that ignores education, has no work ethics and develops poor decision making. He’s just unlucky.

There’s no personal fault involved, they can’t be blamed, its just bad luck.

The rich, their success has nothing to do with attention to education, willingness to work or careful decision making.

They were just lucky.

In this way we can destroy the individual and account everything to luck.

This allows the government to come and take the money from the rich and give to the poor.

After all the rich did not earn the money they were just lucky, so they should have to share their money with the less lucky.

[scanmonkey]

Lucky in cards, unlucky in love

[Andilinks]

Yes, the concept of luck is much abused by those of a socialist or communist leaning. But if it weren't luck they would find something else to abuse to rationalize their bankrupt ideas...

Cards and love are also both places where you can make your own luck, or blame luck for your own failures.

Bringing God into it complicates luck infinitely. I believe in God but those who claim to know God's nature or intentions are beyond me. A simple debate about free will can be fun but cannot ever be resolved.

[Tarzan2]

This thread seems to be going off topic again. The issue of LUCK is one that can have a lot of discussion and I would appreciate that discussion to take place on my web site: http://comeshowme.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/index.php

I enjoy deep topics like, What is Love, or Do You Believe in Luck? If anyone would like to start a new thread about luck, I would be thrilled!

I knew nothing about web sites when I started my first site on Geocities, but by lurking on sites like this one, I have learned so much that when I attended a course on Starting An On-line Business, I was more current than the instructor! Thanks for sharing your knowledge folks!

I have no money for starting a business, but using the techniques learned here, I am starting to at least pay my hosting costs! I have a full-time job, so my time to develop a web business is extremely limited. Right now it is more of a hobby, but if I can make some extra pocket money, I sure won't complain!

Thanks to everyone for all your help!

[Tubby]

YES ! The topic did sort of come to a conclusion of sorts when the site was sold. .

What an inspiring first post Tarzan2 - (sarcasm)
Quote;
"The issue of LUCK is one that can have a lot of discussion and I would appreciate that discussion to take place on my web site:"

I would prefer a moderators Split this topic rather than move. If this is done Tarzan2 can call back for his second post . . . ?
We would appreciate this discussion taking place on THIS website.

Welcome to webproworld Tarzan2 - You should not have any great problem getting a few of us to take a peek at your forum. . . If you are little more subtle. Introduce yourself gradually, and hang around long enough to make us curious.....

This thread probably needs closing or splitting..

[janeth]

lol,

The thread has stopped and everything is on hold as I try and collect my money for the site.

It's sad that people enjoy playing games so much.

So far the guy is going to get with me tomorrow but tomorrow never seems to come.

Whats wrong with people?

[Tubby]

Q - 'Whats wrong with people?'

A - People are the most peculiar creatures ever known to exist in the universe.

[Andilinks]

So let us know when his check clears the bank...

[Andilinks]

Originally Posted by Ancient Roman philosopher Seneca

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

found here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...8-1461,00.html

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

So let us know when his check clears the bank...

First step is getting the check. )-:

[janeth]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

found here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...8-1461,00.html

I love that.

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

found here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...8-1461,00.html

To read Carnegie’s book today is to step into a distant world. It is full of anecdotes about heroes and villains long departed, from Theodore Roosevelt to Al Capone. It was clearly written — as so much cod-psychology was in the 1920s and 1930s — under the illusion that Freud had revealed all there was to know about human behaviour. And it was written for more innocent, trusting times. That, I think, would be the stumbling-block if you tried to apply Carnegie’s methods in our cynical age. They would seem so crude, so obviously contrived. You would be marked down as a conniving fraud within seconds of opening your mouth.

I wish I could experience those times just once.

[Andilinks]

I wish I could experience those times just once.

Yes, those poor naive souls in the 1930's actually thought they could talk Hitler out of using his weapons of blitzkrieg destruction...

I'm glad you called attention to this article incrediblehelp, it is worth reading.

And I'm thinking of reading Dale Carnegie's book as social history.

[janeth]

I've read Dale Carnegie's book on How to Win Friends & Influence People and I thought it was a very good book.

[Andilinks]

I have been meaning to read this too, and since it is from the 1930's it is social history.

Do you know Napoleon Hill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Hill

[Tarzan2]

Originally Posted by Tubby

We would appreciate this discussion taking place on THIS website.

Sorry Tubby,
I just went through the forums and noticed that there is a topic called BREAKROOM that deals with ANY topic. I was previously under the impression that this was strictly a business site that did not deal with topics such as HOPE. My mistake. Please accept my apologies for not doing my homework prior to posting. Up until now I have only entered this forum via links in e-mails that are sent to me on a regular basis, and only read the thread being linked to.

Originally Posted by Tubby

Welcome to webproworld Tarzan2 - You should not have any great problem getting a few of us to take a peek at your forum. . . If you are little more subtle. Introduce yourself gradually, and hang around long enough to make us curious.....

Thanks for welcoming me.
I've never been good at pussyfooting around a topic, so subtlety is not a strong point of mine. I usually just dive in, but I admit, I need to work harder at being more gentle.
I have no idea how I can introduce myself gradually, since I am just a small potato. I doubt I will have many opportunities to do more than just lurk and learn. There won't be much I can contribute for a long long time! You are all miles ahead of me.


Janeth, I'm sorry your deal may have fallen through. Perhaps the potential buyer also reads these posts and has now changed his mind, knowing that it is only a site in its infancy.

[Tubby]

Tarzan2 said
'I was previously under the impression that this was strictly a business site'

I think basically, most of us are full time employed on the net. (or heading that way)

I am half expecting A moderator to move these introduction messages to the right forum. (I would)

Tarzan you will not have any problems fitting in. You put a paragraph together better than I do.
You are etter at me than acting humble quote;
'I have no idea how I can introduce myself gradually, since I am just a small potato. I doubt I will have many opportunities to do more than just lurk and learn. There won't be much I can contribute for a long long time! You are all miles ahead of me.'

You have a useful location.
You have some contact with classic motoring in Canada (Lotus Club ?)
We all promote Tarzan. I have a Canadian Interest.
http://restored-classics.com/canada. (see)

[scanmonkey]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

Yes, those poor naive souls in the 1930's actually thought they could talk Hitler out of using his weapons of blitzkrieg destruction...

I'm glad you called attention to this article incrediblehelp, it is worth reading.

And I'm thinking of reading Dale Carnegie's book as social history.

As a businessman you want to stay away from politics. The only thing that works is the free market and no politics are required.

Capitalism and Communism don't work as people are greedy and want everything for fee. That's why people invented Capitalism and Communism. In China they have communist capitalists.