How to get people to the site

[admin20]

I just launched a website, and I am having difficulty getting people to this site. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on how to help me with it.

site is at

http://www.adposter.net


Thank you for the suggestions,
JP

[sam1]

Hi,
The site dont work.

May be you must changes you host,

[bbauer]

[quote="admin20"]I just launched a website, and I am having difficulty getting people to this site. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on how to help me with it.

If you want to get traffic to your site quickly in today's internet environment, you have to learn how to blog effectively.

Blogging is so important these days that you either blog your business or you don't have one. Its just that
simple.

And example of that is my main website which has been up for just over 3 years now has had a little more than 14,000 visitors and my blog which has been up since May 3rd this year has had more than 14,000 hits too. So the blog at http://creditwrench.blogspot.com has had more traffic in 3 months than my website has had in 3 years.

And guess what? I have done more to promote my website than you will ever imagine. Just a small example, for the first couple of years I had 12 computers on the internet 24-7 promoting various websites including my main website and I have never submitted my blog to any search engine and I probably never will.

If you want to get your webpage lots of hits use a blog to promote it.

If you would like to learn how to get started the easy way just send an email to blogs@autobotinfo.com and over the course of 3 days you will get 3 emails that will not only tell you how to do it but will give you the source coude to set one up and you can get one started in less than a day once you get your final email.

The final email will give you the source code that you can copy and paste right into the blog and it will give you a color coded webpage copy that will show you what you can change on your blog template and what you should leave alone and not change.

So send the email and get started to promoting your website the blog way.

You will be very glad you did.
my website My blog
My Message board ceo@creditwrench.com

[acornwebworks]

Interestingly, I have just reviewed the website of bbauer who recommended that you blog to get traffic. His concern? He was getting lots of traffic but it wasn’t being converted into sales! Not knowing how his blog conversion rate compares to his search engine results conversion rate, I certainly can’t say that his is a bad plan. But I thought it an interesting factoid :-)

Your site is very nice looking. I do have a couple of thoughts, though...at first not about getting traffic, but I do make some suggestions about that, too.

1) I had to really, really work hard to find out how much it cost to list on your site. Having to click on a Join Now button before you can find this out (if there’s another way, I didn’t find it) is an extremely poor call-to-action. Most people will give up, or use only the free option.

You need to make that information easily findable. Not only that, but if your price of $10 a year is really unlimited...meaning I can list as many photo ads on your site as I want for only one $10 annual fee...you should emphasize that. It’s almost as good as free!

2) On your free ad page, list more category options. Personally I’d want to list in Real Estate, and the closest thing you have is General Merchandise. Not good. For someone who wants to try your site before buying, none of your drop down boxes for Category offered a ‘real estate’ option. So here I am - literally considering buying your service - but I can’t try it in my category to see if I like it. My only option was Other, and that’s not good enough because your navigation bar literally lists Real Estate as a choice - so I would have no way of testing your ad site because I would have no way to put my ad in the appropriate category without paying first.

3) You require state/province, yet offer every country in the world. Don’t require state/province. There are many countries that do not have such a geographic designation (or searchers may not have a clue what they would be. For example, the island country of Grenada...can you name a state or province on Grenada...or even if they have any?)

4) On your Real Estate search form, don’t require state/province, # of kitchens, baths or bedrooms. Make these optional fields.

5) What do you mean by Home Properties vs. Out-of-State properties vs. Foreign Properties. I notice that the 2 homes you have listed are in Home Properties and are both Canadian, Is yours a Canadian site?

6) Put something other than a Contact Us form on your site. An address. A phone number. Something that increases a sense of trust about your site.

In other words, try to make this as helpful and easy-to-use as possible. You don’t just want traffic...you want your traffic to do something that makes you $$$ :-) You’ve got a ton of competition, much of it offering free ads, so quality will count.

Other thoughts for getting traffic...lots of people will search by things like “free real estate ads” (I read my log files faithfully :-) or “free car ads” or “advertise my motorcycle for free”. I would recommend focusing your efforts on those kinds of searches. For example, “advertise my motorcycle for free” brings up 74,000 results in Google while “classified ads” brings up 3,250,000. Hmmmm :-) Try making up searches yourself or use tools such as the 7 Search keyword suggestion tool: http://conversion.7search.com/script...uggestion.aspx

Hope this helps!

Kendall

[bbauer]

Originally Posted by acornwebworks

You certainly have brought up some interesting points. The advertising thing seems to be a terrible way to try to make money. One reason is that so many of the advertising type sites are there for the sole purpose of gathering email addys and then reselling those to the spammers that I would think it would be difficult indeed to actually get people to advertise on any such site.

And another point that your "critic" brought up is that about search terms/categories. That is a tough subject. I pay a lot of attention to that and what I have found out is that most people are searching for more exact terms than most realize. For instance, a lot of people do search using the search term "girls"
but far more use other terms such as "Latinas" or "Russian" or "chinese" or "black" or "Blondes", "redheads" and many other "girl specific" terms rather than just "girls"

For instance, I have maybe 50 or so webpages that are nothing but listings of collection agencies by city and state or province. People almost never search for
"collection agencies" but almost always search for "Sleazebag Collection Agnecy" or "Beatemup & Dumpum collection agency" or when it comes to attorneys they will search for "Dewey Cheatum & Howe" but never just
for attorneys.

So all things considered, I'd say that his ideas are very good indeed.

[admin20]

Thank you very much for all the comments you guys made. I am now making some changes to the site. To those who aren't able to see the site cause it was offline it's because of the POWER OUTAGE happening here in Toronto. Yes the site is a Canadian site.

If anyone of you is going to review the site, please be informed that if the site is offline that means that the power is off here in Canada. Unfortunately the power will be rotated on a timely basis until next week I think.

Thank you for your comments and suggestions.

[janeth]

I will start by saying that I know nothing about blogs but have sent an email to bbauer to see what he can tell me.
My website is about 6 months old and we get about 864 visitors a day and about 43982 hits. We are still looking for the perfect set up as far as the website goes, we get closer everyday but have a long ways to go. There are a lot of ways to get visitors to your website. The most important are links. On your website you say your ranked number one can I ask for which key words. Choosing the right key words is more important the getting ranked in the top ten. We have had to find that out the hard. If I was you I would work on getting as many links to your site as you can. You selling the ability to help other people get to the top of the search engines you need to be there for the good key words plus you will get a lot of hits from the links you set up.

[adposter]

Hi Janeth,

Yes Janeth, you are right, I have been using the keywords specifically targetted to the service I provide. The only thing that's getting me is that I think it's the competition. But the big difference is the quality of service. I've seen a lot of online ad services in there that charges or don't even charge anything but the quality of the site is just something like an FFA site. aconwebworks is right with what he said, some of the information I am misplacing them and yes, I am constantly improving the site and organizing things about. Hopefully as the site gets older (just launched it 4 months ago), more people would recognize it. Actually if anyone of you would be interested, I also created a Forum on my site and if you guys would be willing to help out post some info in there, maybe that would help me get going. Besides, the Forum registration is FREE. Thank you all for the info.

Thanks,
Jon

[httpman]

Originally Posted by Janeth

I will start by saying that I know nothing about blogs but have sent an email to bbauer to see what he can tell me.
My website is about 6 months old and we get about 864 visitors a day and about 43982 hits. We are still looking for the perfect set up as far as the website goes, we get closer everyday but have a long ways to go. There are a lot of ways to get visitors to your website. The most important are links. On your website you say your ranked number one can I ask for which key words. Choosing the right key words is more important the getting ranked in the top ten. We have had to find that out the hard. If I was you I would work on getting as many links to your site as you can. You selling the ability to help other people get to the top of the search engines you need to be there for the good key words plus you will get a lot of hits from the links you set up.

[From France] : She's right. 2 Weeks ago I was looking at the same topic : how to get people coming to my website, w/o spending all my bucks. My company is 1 year old, and finding new contacts always looks to me like a punishment - Hey, I'm a web designer, not a sales people.

Take a look at Janeth's website, you will find great value advices. Link exchange is a good starting point. Google puts a strong emphasis on the nb of links pointing to your website. Hence how to get links when you start your own site ?

The answer is on Janeth's website. But that's just a starting point : while looking for link exchange programs, I founded many local directories, talking about my city, and my department (a french way to split the country in smaller parts)... A lot of directories in fact, and I just didn't know them cause "always on the road". I posted my website adress there for free, and 1 week later it starts working...

Have a look at Janeth's website !

Jean-Pierre

[bbauer]

Janeth, one thing I noticed on your site was that you have at least two or three, maybe more keywords which are not to be found anywhere in your body text. If you want my advice, I'd say you should either use them or get rid of them. Doing so should help your search engine rankings at least a little bit.

I've said that I would put up a complete script template for the blogs.

I've done that at blogs@autobotinfo.com and I've had quite a few responses of people looking for free template and instructions.

And then I tried the template this morning and it didn't work right so I debugged it and I'll be changing the template in the autoresponder sometime today so if you get the template and it don't work there will be a debugged copy after 08/19/03 and if you get one that don't work simply send another email to blogs@autobotinfo.com and get the new template.

Sorry about that.

[janeth]

httpman
Thanks a lot for your comments

[janeth]

bbauer
Thanks for looking at the site I play around a lot with the text on the page and the key words. We are ranked number one for a lot of the key words that was in the text last week we changed those key words this week some of those key words may still be in the meta tags key words list I guess this is what your talking about. Since that is the less for the things google looks at I try not to change those. If there was something else let me know.
thanks

[httpman]

Originally Posted by bbauer

I've done that at blogs@autobotinfo.com and I've had quite a few responses of people looking for free template and instructions.

Hey bbauer, why should one send you an e-mail to get a script ? Don't know how to put a FREE usable script on a website ? Many of us here can help you if needed.
Or are trying to get any @ adresses ?

[httpman]

Originally Posted by Janeth

httpman
Thanks a lot for your comments

The very true reason for my comment is that thanks to your advices, I have just started a new way to promote my site and my knowledge - and by those difficult times, finding new clients is a guess. And it works.

Your advices are obvious, while free - a bad way to make money, a good way to help people like a lot of us.

You should write an article about "how to get more visitors" through links exchange... Regarding WebPro readers questions, seems a high value subject. Here I put a link to one of your pages that waked me up : http://www.geeksonsteroids.com/linksforhits.htm

JP[/url]

[janeth]

I'm glad I could be of help
If you go to this page http://www.geeksonsteroids.com/recip...links_page.htm
look at the banner at the bottom of the page it says link partners click on it and go to that site it is a great place to start finding people to link to you.

[bbauer]

Originally Posted by httpman

Hey bbauer, why should one send you an e-mail to get a script ? Don't know how to put a FREE usable script on a website ? Many of us here can help you if needed.
Or are trying to get any @ adresses ?

Many people don't even know about blogs or what they are, much less how to put a free usable script on a blog. Additionally, most of the scripts produce a blog that is pretty cheesy looking to say the least and have little in the way of functionality. And to make it even worse, lots of people aren't familiar with html or java
script programming and wouldn't know what it was if they saw it. My only intention is to help those who know little or nothing about it to get going easily.

The script I am giving them is all notated so they can tell where to put things and how to write their changes into the script. On top of that I have a web page set up so they can access it which gives it to them in color coding so they can easily see what they
should or should not change, add to or whatever.

Am I trying to get people's email addresses? Hardly. I don't believe in spamming people and I don't sell email addresses and I never contact anyone by email unless they have specifically sent an email to my regular email address asking me a specific question or providing me with information. I have lots of people asking me to email them and I simply won't do it. I will gladly answer any emails I get but I don't
send any out spam fashion.

I got better things to do than that.

[bbauer]

Originally Posted by Janeth

I'm glad I could be of help
If you go to this page http://www.geeksonsteroids.com/recip...links_page.htm
look at the banner at the bottom of the page it says link partners click on it and go to that site it is a great place to start finding people to link to you.

I love to trade links but I think banner exchanges are a very poor way to do it. That's because the spiders don't read banners or what is on them. As far as I am concerned text links are the only way to go in most cases. And I'm not about to trade links with somebody that is going to put my link back on page F100 which they maintain as a link farm while I give them a front page billing.

Lots of sites will have a little blurb which says "Link to me" and even give you a code you can put on your website. Forget that.

Its got to be a reciprocal link on a prominent page or nothing.

[janeth]

To start with I never said anything about banner exchanges.
I'm also sure that your competition loves the layout and set up of your site. From the looks of it my guess is that your not trying to use the search engines any way. The fact that for title which is one of the most important places to put your key words you used Creditwrench Home Page-WELCOME
You also used frames on the site and the blue background with black text is a bit much.
My site has no link farms on it and I never said anything about link farms.
You need to read and understand what your talking about.
As long as a link page has between 20 to 30 links on it there is no problem. All the link exchanges I do are text. I think before you give seo advice you should go back and work on your website and check into things before you start writting.

[bbauer]

Originally Posted by Janeth

The fact that for title which is one of the most important places to put your key words you used Creditwrench Home Page-WELCOME

And so what would you suggest to change it to?

You need to read and understand what your talking about.

I was not referring to your site, but the way that so many want to do with link trading.

As long as a link page has between 20 to 30 links on it there is no problem.

I can agree with that or even a few more. Some say to keep it under maybe 60 or so.

I didn't really come in here to give advice but rather to get some comments about site improvement. I get excellent traffic, just need to learn how to improve what my site looks like. In the process I got side tracked into talking about something I do know about which is how to get the traffic there in the first place.

One can have the bst looking site out there but if nobody sees it nothing is going to happen. And if you
get tons of traffic to a poorly designed site that isn't going to work out too well either. I've learned how to get traffic to a site and blogs are the way to do it. Now I just have to learn how to get the page looking good and selling.

That's what I am trying to do.

[janeth]

I'm very sorry for my comments. Since you had copied something I had said and then wrote your comments under them I took this to mean that you were saying I had said something and you where trying to correct me. I'm sorry for that