How to get people to the site - Page 2

criticman · #51 (**permalink**) 08-26-2003, 01:16 PM

Janet said "criticman, after I saw what can of sites you like I have to say thank you for not liking my site..."

Criticman replies:

With clients like VW, Shimano, Bandai, Kawasaki, 3M, British Airways, Hitachi, SONY, Guiness, IBM, Microsoft, Peugeot, Symantec and Verizon, I would have thought that the success of those agencies I referred to would speak for itself. It doesn't even matter what an individual like me thinks. Agencies like these ARE successful primarily because they understand something that many so-called designers cannot even comprehend - BRAND IDENTITY. Designing (for the web or any other medium) involves more than just knowing how to use a software package and write (or copy) HTML.

If I were you I wouldn't worry about whether I like your site or not. The "kind of sites I like" are also obviously the kind of sites that companies such as those mentioned above also like.

I have not included a URL because I do not want my personal opinions and feelings to be taken as the opinions and feelings of the company I work for.

wenwilder · #52 (**permalink**) 08-26-2003, 07:52 PM

You list a lot of well known corporations, but I have to ask.....are their sites really making them money?

I've seen large corporations throw almost endless streams of money at a webdesigner for the "perfect" website, and just keep losing money.

There is no such thing as the perfect website. Every webdesigner has their pluses and their minuses.

The one thing that everyone should learn is that you will never, ever make everyone happy!

Just a thought. ;)

janeth · #53 (**permalink**) 08-27-2003, 01:38 AM

I agree there is no way to make everyone happy. But to come to the form with
Here is a quote on the very first post of
criticman
Most of the sites of members in this forum look unprofessional and if I were a corporate business person looking to hire the services of web professionals I would not hire any of you because of that fact, even if I had found your sites listed number 1 on all the major search engines.

I think it is sad to waste our time or yours with post like this. It means nothing because you want to be ugly and rude to 10,000 people at one time. You have no site that you are willing to let any one else see. You have posted twice with comments that are a waste of time.

fathom · #54 (**permalink**) 08-28-2003, 08:12 AM

A good discussion if not a bit argumentative.

criticman although I agree that brand identity is quite powerful, there are also many examples of non-graphical interface/dynamic designs that are primarily text based sites and do excellently well with brand BLA!.

Reasoning... brand isn't but looks, it's all about credibility, integrity and trust.

TrafficProducer · #55 (**permalink**) 08-28-2003, 11:44 AM

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Lando · #56 (**permalink**) 08-28-2003, 03:15 PM

Well.. I don't THINK this was mentioned in any other posts, but I did notice that you have the following robots text:

<meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="INDEX, NOFOLLOW">

NOFOLLOW?? I'd want that darn 'bot going to every page I have! :) Unless you have a reason for it.... well... your'e cutting off more potential pages for SE's to spider if they reach that page first.

Also, just a side-note, I notice you used 'classified at least 8 times in your 14 keywords. That MAY be considered 'spamming' of keywords, as it's over 50% used.

Just my thoughts. Any one else know better, please feel free to correct me!

Lando

cmason · #57 (**permalink**) 08-28-2003, 10:47 PM

Do you have any type of webstats that you can review regarding your site? Also, why is your robots.txt file set up the way it is? I can help you with Search Engine Placement. What are your positions in the search engines, are you targeting the correct keyword/keyword phrases that the user would be looking for your service. There are a lot of factors you need to consider. I would be happy to speak with you!

adposter · #58 (**permalink**) 08-29-2003, 12:37 PM

cmason wrote:
Do you have any type of webstats that you can review regarding your site? Also, why is your robots.txt file set up the way it is? I can help you with Search Engine Placement. What are your positions in the search engines, are you targeting the correct keyword/keyword phrases that the user would be looking for your service. There are a lot of factors you need to consider. I would be happy to speak with you!

Lando wrote:
Well.. I don't THINK this was mentioned in any other posts, but I did notice that you have the following robots text:

<meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="INDEX, NOFOLLOW">

NOFOLLOW?? I'd want that darn 'bot going to every page I have! :) Unless you have a reason for it.... well... your'e cutting off more potential pages for SE's to spider if they reach that page first.

I do have my own webstats that i can review regarding my site. Also my robots.txt is okay. I've checked it and it's optimized for all search engine crawlers. Well I sure don't mind suggestions regarding SE Optimization, but my page is already ranking high in search engines. Consider the keyword report link generated below:

http://www.adposter.net/web/report/a.../Concise-6.htm

With regards to the <META TAG> I had, with the "index, nofollow". The reason behind that is because most crawlers lists pages that are not suppose to be listed in search engines. If you have a secure page then you surely don't want that crawled by the spider. So that's why I included that "index, nofollow". You see, I don't think it's the search engine is the main issue here. There's that saying "Content is King". If content sucks, no traffic. It's funny though, even though the service is so affordable, people seem skeptic about it.

I mean getting a member for 1 year for just $10.00 dollars and post unlimited ads is like posting ads for only 83 cents/year. And a lot of classified advertising companies there charge $5.00-$30.00/month just to get someone listed to their ads. And the ad circulation is only for about a week or 2 weeks. And there are those who charge FREE but the quality of the way their ads when posted is so bad that the ad gets pushed way down below that no people could even see it.

I'm thinking of how else can I tweak my site to improve services. And it's not just getting listed to search engines, but getting the word out there to let people see what you do. Eventhough I know they say that 85% of internet users use the search engine to find information and businesses, and i've read tons of books about it. Getting the word out offline is still the best way. A lot of people think that once you get listed in search engines you can sit tight and merry go yonder. But that's not the case. Getting a business on the internet running is just as difficult as running a general business, especially with the kind of economy the world has.

Nevertheless, i'm thankful for suggestions.

Thanks,
Jon

TrafficProducer · #59 (**permalink**) 09-04-2003, 04:40 PM

How to advertise websites. Methods of internet advertising and promotion. Here are some advertising methods that you may have considered to promote websites.

http://www.solutions.ukdots.com/adve...g_methods.html

bbauer · #60 (**permalink**) 09-04-2003, 08:30 PM

Well, I'm back again. (LOL)
I finally picked up a program called xml spy and I used it and in a round about way it found all or most of my errors and java script troubles I was having on my website. I even found a work around for the frames on my site too.

So if some of you can check out my http://www.creditwerench.com for me and see if you think I have improved things or not I would appreciate it.

And yes, I'm the guy with the blogs. (LOL)
5 of them as of right now and I am thinking of putting up another one yet but I'm going to go slow with that.

I've just about got more on my plate than I can say grace over right now anyway.

Thanks folks.
YOu have been very helpful.

I hope that I have returned some of the favors I have received here on this forum with my instructional set on how to do blogs. My autoresponder at blogs@autobotinfo.com has been going nuts trying to answer all the demands for my free lessons on how to build and run a blog.

adposter · #61 (**permalink**) 09-04-2003, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbauer

Well, I'm back again. (LOL)
I finally picked up a program called xml spy and I used it and in a round about way it found all or most of my errors and java script troubles I was having on my website. I even found a work around for the frames on my site too.

So if some of you can check out my http://www.creditwerench.com for me and see if you think I have improved things or not I would appreciate it.

And yes, I'm the guy with the blogs. (LOL)
5 of them as of right now and I am thinking of putting up another one yet but I'm going to go slow with that.

I've just about got more on my plate than I can say grace over right now anyway.

Thanks folks.
YOu have been very helpful.

I hope that I have returned some of the favors I have received here on this forum with my instructional set on how to do blogs. My autoresponder at blogs@autobotinfo.com has been going nuts trying to answer all the demands for my free lessons on how to build and run a blog.

Your site looks better now! Whew, no more bugs finally! Site looks great! About that blogs you were talking about, do I still need a program to read them or what?

Jon

bbauer · #62 (**permalink**) 09-05-2003, 12:37 AM

The template I am "promoting" goes on www.blogspot.com and nowhere else. The code is unique to that site. You have to go to www.blogger.com to put the code into the system.

There are many other blog hosting companies out there but blogspot.com was the original inventors of the blog concept and as near as I am able to determine from public comments they are probably one of the best out there if not the best.

I've never tried any of the other hosting companies but I have seen lots of negative comments on most of them from time to time.

Different bugs and problems each has that are unique to them. That's not to say that blogger.com don't have their problems too but all in all their service seems pretty good and with relatively few problems.

I've seen some go try radiouserland and some ore of them and just come back to blogger complaining about whatever. Never paid any attention to what their complaints were, just the fact that they were complaining.

adposter · #63 (**permalink**) 09-08-2003, 11:30 PM

I wonder if any of you have checked to see if my site is fast enough to serve clients. Can you guys let me know if it's running okay.

Thanks,
Jon

bbauer · #64 (**permalink**) 09-09-2003, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adposter

I wonder if any of you have checked to see if my site is fast enough to serve clients. Can you guys let me know if it's running okay.

Thanks,
Jon

Seems to be running fast enough but I see that you are not making max use of alt tags. Why not?

adposter · #65 (**permalink**) 09-09-2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bbauer

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Originally Posted by adposter

I wonder if any of you have checked to see if my site is fast enough to serve clients. Can you guys let me know if it's running okay.

Thanks,
Jon

Seems to be running fast enough but I see that you are not making max use of alt tags. Why not?

In what part did I not use alt tags? I seem to have used the alt tags on images that are relevant for positioning, I don't think i've missed anything else? Please let me know where I missed part of it? By the way, do you know any sites that has tons of newsfeeds where I could use for my site to plug in? Furthermore I also have a forum page, but I'm still thinking of what to put in the forum page since most of the topics are listed in this site already. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jon

adposter · #66 (**permalink**) 09-09-2003, 04:55 AM

Can anyone else check and see if the site is loading at the right speed?

Thanks,
Jon

bbauer · #67 (**permalink**) 09-14-2003, 12:53 AM

If you go to google or any of the engines and do a search for "syndicators" you will find a ton of them. Some are free and some you have to pay for.

adposter · #68 (**permalink**) 09-16-2003, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbauer

If you go to google or any of the engines and do a search for "syndicators" you will find a ton of them. Some are free and some you have to pay for.

Thanks bbauer, i'll check into that. Right now i've made some modifications on the site. The site now expands when the browser gets maximized. Furthermore, it gives me more room for additional web resources on the right side panel of the site.

I also developed this site, check it out and let me know what you guys think about the design.

recent website developed

I'm also working on another site right now, I'll let you guys know when it's in production.

Thanks,
Jon

adposter · #69 (**permalink**) 09-16-2003, 08:54 PM

I have finally updated my Web Links. Anyone interested in adding their site to mine can visit my site and click on Biz Link. Fill up the form and automatically link your site. Linking to my site is FREE.

If anyone is interested in getting traffic. Or increase their link popularity.

Thanks,
Jon

bbauer · #70 (**permalink**) 09-16-2003, 10:38 PM

Here is something I just ran into that might help some folks.

Its free and has a few hidden benefits that don't immediately show up until you really study it closely but the immediate benefits are very obvious.

http://www.backflip.com/dir_folders....older=12553406

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cwk · #71 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 03:34 PM

That's what you will get if you don't use your own service.
WOW ... what an opportunity you have of using your very own service to advertise your site THEN to brag about how good the service is with another ad.
Your wording is going to have to be catchy, make sure you don't use words like "free, fastest, best, discount, biggest" ... these words have no credibility ... you need to have a title that will catch the eye of the reader and WANT TO MAKE THEM GO TO YOUR SITE.