I continue to wonder if big business is blocking high speed internet. You figure as soon as 50-100 MB upload/download speeds are available, the following will be possible:
1. Movies on demand that can be downloaded in just a few seconds (whether the source is legal or not).
2. Everyone can open up their wifi and create a network that allows your cellphone to connect to a network and call anyone for free, no contract needed anymore.

What do you think?

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1-A form of this already exists - most cable providers offers movies "on demand" over the high bandwidth cable line.

2-You would still need to pay for the service that connects the call, transitioning from the Internet to a phone system.

I think eventually the move will be made to everything coming over the Internet. Phone, tv, etc. It is already starting, but in order to make the transition fully a lot of infrastructure must be upgraded. For example, full fiber optic cable needs to be available to maintain the bandwidth for all of the customers in the area. This can be expensive to implement, and at this point there is not much need for faster speeds. I have a practical download rate of 10Mbps, but nothing I do comes close to using that bandwidth. Most download servers can not handle that much data, and online games do not come close to using even 1Mbps in most cases.

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easy answer...yes, major companies like Verizon and AT&T would rather speed you up gradually and make money along the way...it's much more lucrative to charge incrementally, especially if you charge 40 times bandwidth

In Hong Kong, to use a recent example, the lowest speed one provider offers is 25Mbps, but you might as well get the 100 Mbps for the same price Verizon offers 5 Mbps...or just go all out and get 1 Gbps for $215 per month.

Whoddathunk we'd all be looking to Hong Kong for hope? Who knew such speeds were even currently possible?

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there is no free market in the States anymore, the market is controlled by a few key players who, ironically, use the free market argument to keep the government out of their business. Their business, by the way, is controlling the market and you.

Ah, corporatism, the New American Way...but don't expect to hear much about it on the major networks; they're all owned and carefully directed, and would rather keep you up to date on the latest Lindsay Lohan drama.

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I currently have a 10Mbps connection (standard high speed with cogeco cable) at home... for 42.95 a month, for 64.95 I can get to 16Mbps.
If I want to put a commercial line into the house it's available.. heck I can get a T1 or T3 into the house if I like, just costs too much to do it, lol...
Have to remember though even though I have 10Mbps coming in every online service I have running takes a little piece of that and I have 3 computers online (at least) at all times, so downloading a movie or show bang doesn't work..

I can download them in 15 or 20mins though (750MB).. normal is more like an hour though. Far cry from a few years ago!

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What happened to high speed internet?

Yes maybe it should be what's the price.

I belive big business, (I live in "Rip-Off Britian" where it's about 2Mb for £20.00 a month via cable), are slowing things to get more value to them for the Old Gear they have.

But then they don't, (are scared), of investing in something that will be out of date in 6 Months.

Great Question, by they way.

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Couple companies here in Canada have started offering a true wireless Internet.. Portable.. small box you carry with your laptop and you can get 3Mbps connection through the cellular network..

Just tear down the red tape on the satelites and let us all get our Internet like the government does, and it's available anywhere!

It's coming!

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The Hong Kong example is FTTP (fiber to the prem). Verizon is in the process of making their network all FTTP. AT&T is doing a combination of FTTP and FTTN (fiber to the node. the last feet brought in on twisted pair using VDSL.). Cable is using a marketing gimmick in some areas claiming to boost your speed, "when you need it," whatever that means. Actually, it means robbing Peter to pay Paul. DSL still chugs along at up to 6 meg for less than $50/month in most metropolitan areas.

Unless you are uploading or downloading huge files, the average user won't experience much difference between 1.5 meg and 15 meg. The reason? Those are connection speeds, not to be confused with end-to-end speeds. It does little good to visit a site with your 15meg sync rate and the site is only able to crank out 6meg or the route is overbooked. Bottle necks are bottle necks.

Movies are already downloaded quickly with AT&T's U-verse product. Likewise with Verizon's FIOS. IPTV is here, too. Wireless is still is far slower, but its future holds promise.

Wireless and cable TV data connections are very susceptable to snooping. Wireless, because it broadcasts everywhere and cable because it loops through every subscriber on it's way to and from the node. Surprisingly, DSL is the most secure, with its dedicated pair to the central office.

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For a good majority of Americans any more the computer is something for work. We spend 8 hours a day perched at desk infront of a monitor and eyes squared and squarely glued to the LCD or Cathode ray display. Mice wrists get stiff and the neck gets wearied for balancing the overwieght gourd on top of it's stalk.
When we get home, we want the Lazy boy and the boob tube, or playing on the carpet with kids and dogs, or cooking a nice meal or mowing the grass, or fixing the TOILET ANYTHING but being stuck infront of a computer for two mkore hours so I can watch a movie.

Just because we can do a thing, doesn't follow that we should do a thing. Shall they seal us up in caccons with wifi and lap tops?

anyway that's my two cents,

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From my perspective, download is ok. It's upload that sucks. Anything on the horizon for increasing that speed?

Here in Japan, government and business got together to fund the laying of fiber.

Now, in the area I live, I have 4 different choices of 100mbs synchronous fiber service providers, which include phone service, and I pay about US$70 a month.

For ADSL, there are easily three times the number of sources.

Cable though is almost dead because there is not enough competition so prices are high and service is terrible. Cable here is now the new "300 baud", i.e. NOT "the new black".

On the subscriber side, things are great.

On the provider side, they are making money hand over fist, except the cable providers who are dying.

Other countries that have followed pretty much the same road map are not that much different while countries that allow and support companies in their imposing and inflicting of monopolies find they don't have as much money for expansion. There are even still providers in some countries that actually have bandwidth caps!

Go figure.

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FTTP or FTTN as well as DSL are better at uploading than cable. As a matter of fact, cable companies will not allow you to act as a server. They compromise the upstream and promote the downstream. There are "flavors" of ADSL that allow for the larger portion of the bandwidth to be designated for upstream.

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The comparison of the US telecom industry to that of Asia or Europe is flawed. The major US telecom companies have been restricted by government regulations while that of their foreign counterparts have been subsidized, if not owned, by their respective governments. Here in the US, cable companies have flourished without regulation and without competition due to their competitors being stifled by the government and their "franchise" agreements with cities that block competition from other cable companies.

In both models, the consumer suffers. While the telecom rates and service may be better outside the US, the citizens outside the US are paying extremely high taxes on their incomes to pay for the subsidy. Governments, the US and all others, are not known for their wise shopping habits because they are using other people's money.

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Satellite is not all that reliable for internet, especially streaming applications. I used to do tech support for a large consumer electronics corporation, and I would get calls from the military and military contractors that were having trouble with IP-based camera systems. One call was from a remote research post that had a dedicated satellite uplink. It was completely unable to handle a simple 500kbps video upload. The round trip for data takes about 4 seconds, simply because of the massive distances involved.

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You should use Broad Band to high speed internet .

That would raise the question what speed is Broad Band, is it 56k plus or is it over 2Mbp/s or faster...

It appears that anything over 1Mb/s can be classes as Broad Band. Remember this is the fastest speed it can go, the actual user speed could be a lot less due to bad quality wires/light fibers, etc...

Just what speed is high speed?

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That having been said, however, the problem is that a substantial portion of th US population does not have access to broadband.

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I'm not sure what is meant by "substantial," but the majority of the US has access to broadband internet. Cable, DSL, FTTN, FTTP, Satellite, WiFi...

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Industry surveys here vary, both as to the measure used and the observed quantity of such measure. Various measures include 1) no. of households, 2) no. of adults, and 3) no. of persons. Further distinctions may or may not have been made, such as whether or not such access exists at home, as opposed to at work, school, public library or another location, to mention but one. Some surveys do, in fact, exclude those who do not, for whatever reason, use the net.

Among the results of such surveys, which obviously report greatly varying results, I have yet to see one claiming that more than two-thirds of the US population has broadband access, and some still report less than 50% penetration.

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Unless someone is living under a rock, there is access to broadband in the United States. Whether they choose to subscribe is a different question. Yes, satellite service may be cost prohibitive, but it is still accessible. Even in metropolitan areas, "grandma" may not want the internet, let alone broadband.

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Since satellite service requires "line-of-sight," it is not always that case that such is available.

And, if the cost of any good or service is prohibitive, then it is, for practical purposes unavailable.

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Many of the surveys I have seen do not include satellite, because the "broadband" portion of the connection is one-way, downlink. Uplink is usually done through dial up. This can make a satellite connection less than ideal for many applications such as gaming and video streaming.

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Correct, wige; most satellite Internet access today is via the type known as one-way with terrestrial return. The "uplink" is actually an IP compliant dial-up connection with the ISP, with the downlink being broadcast to the user in a Digital Video Broadcasting format for satellites (such as DVB-S, DVB-S2 & DVB-SH), which is not IP compliant.

Quasi-IP compliance is obtained by encapsulating the data and using non-standard IP stacks for its being processed by the user's equipment. Although this can address the latency and asymmetry problems to some degree, it can neither wholly eliminate these problems nor provide full interactivity.

True 2-way satellite Internet service requires the use of a VSAT (Very Small Apeture Terminal), which is actually a complete satellite ground station. And, even with VSATs, the service provider frequently still uses a dial-up connection for handling data where latency is more important than bandwidth, using the satellite channel only for data transfers where bandwidth is of the greater import, such as the transfer of large files.

And, regardless of the type of service, satellite service providers generally impose rather restrictive monthly bandwidth allowances, which, for the typical consumer, can be as little as several gigabytes per month.

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I think you´re forgetting that when something is possible, it doesn't mean it is practically implementable at a large scale just like that. The infrastructure to support so much more data needs to be in place as well. Those are huge investments which are paid by gradually increasing speeds at large scales. In order for the big companies to get a Return on their investments, they'll need a couple of years. Then the next generation of backbone infrastructure can be bought and the process repeats it self.

Big business isn't blocking high speed internet. They are working their asses off to make sure they keep up with the competition. Thinking otherwise is merely putting your self in some kind of victom position which is not necessary at all.

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Well, I'm sitting here with 10 meg downstream and 1.5 upstream. I'm not using a cable modem. I'm on a single twisted copper pair that was placed over 30 years ago.

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Yes, I think they are, big business like to screw every penny out of the old technology and us as well.

Although this shows what can be done with old technology, (must be right next door to a main exchange), What would it be if Internet speeds followed Moore's Law moore's law - Google Search

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If they wouldn't, you'd be paying $1000 a month for your internet connection.

Looks like it does. 10 years ago I had a 56k modum. Now I have a 2 MB connection. 56 * 2^5 = 1.8 Meg.. And I could have an 8MB connection, but for now 2Meg is enough. So seems to be going even faster than Moore's Law would predict.

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With hardware price have remained stable, I paid £1,300 for a 286 years ago, the same price would get me a lot more power with extra hardware, (DVD burners, etc), now.

Faster, faster faster will it ever be fast enough as speeds have increased what we want to do has increase the need for larger amounts of data, e.g. video

The Internet appears to follow the for computers+>hardware/software increase = for internet+>bandwidth/data needs.

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What specific type of DSL? And, how far from the CO?

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comcast has blast now 16meg down 2 meg up, can't really tell the difference between their regular tier though unless using bt

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If I want to put a commercial line into the house it's available.. heck I can get a T1 or T3 into the house if I like, just costs too much to do it

But, T1s are not available everywhere, but only in those areas which are provisioned for such. And, areas which are not provisioned for either fiber or DSL are unlikely to be provisioned for T1 unless that area contains a "power user," e.g., a defense installation.

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"costs too much to do it", In the trems of hardware pricing, (my first main comouter a was about £1,300 and did not even have sound now I could get much more power for about £600), bandwidth is expensive

Let's face it the "not available everywhere" whould becomeavailable if we paid 10's of millions of pounds to get it plumbed it. Highspeed is down to how huch cash, (the technology is there, I could get 20M on cable if I paid enough), there is and whether it's worth it or not.

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you know what, I got only 1mps internet connection, think how much lucky you are plus I have a quote of 4gb per month think about me...

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It's easy for those with high speed broadband to assume that such is the norm.

For example, those in Baltimore, MD, on the West bank of the Chesapeake Bay, are oblivious to the fact that those on the Delmarva Peninsula, from the East bank of the Chesapeake to the Atlantic Ocean are, except for those close enough to the military installation at Wallops Island, who can therefore get a T1 line if they can afford it, stuck with dial-up or satellite service.

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3MB ADSL for almost $100 USD/month...high speed? low cost?

Cable & Wireless (Cayman Islands)

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Hm-mm. More like mid-range speed @ high cost.

But, what economies of scale are to be had in the Caymens? And, how does the local economy there compare with elsewhere?

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No real economies of scale for an ISP or any service business that only addresses the domestic market, but they do have a fair bit of stability in return because there isn't big competition to deal with. It is a small island. There is no real need for 10MB connections here and the price is expected....but I say Power to the Customer!! YAYYY

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Hi All,

Practical facts - the further your house is away from the exchange the more line degradation you get. The more people that you share the line with also has an affect.

Get online when less people are using, or move closer to the exchange.


Practical? No


Go business and pay for a dedicated access. Otherwise live with it


BB has a limit subject to line quality of roughly 3 - 6 miles depending on newsness of the telephone infrastructure. If you are at that distance you might as well have dial-up.

Read the facts all

Nothing is free in life, if a fast connection is what you need you wil have to get your wallet out.

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To be precise
The further away you are from the DSLAM ... . DSLAMs are now deployed well removed from the Central Offices.

For cable, true; for DSL, not shared.

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Is Google still buying and planning to build a global fiber-optic network from scratch?

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Considering that most dark fiber is backbone, rather than last mile, the more feasible application would be to use it to interconnect Google's data centers.

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Yes may be, so they can make the search monster even bigger and faster.

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More importantly, the synchronization of the various data centers' indexing results would be greatly sped up; and, load balancing could be dynamically altered on an as needed basis, with jobs assigned to a given DS quickly transferred to another, thus reducing the average time required to index.

In essence, they could achieve the effect of massive parallelization on a global scale.

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Key words:

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The latest report from the Office Of National Statistics (ONS) reveals that 42.3% of all broadband connections are still slower than 2Mbps. This figure is in stark contrast to the figure from market regulator Ofcom last year that claimed "the average headline speed has doubled in a year to reach 4.6Mb/sec".


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Here's a desperate idea Bandwidth, what about bandwidth. Bandwidth and power supplies

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